Replies posted by mcadv
THIS site has all that info: seat61.com,it describes all overland routings from GB to all countries in EUR-and even beyond. Just hook on, B-pest is fine, for description. It is NOT specific for passes, but for anyone, also paying as one goes.It is indeed also the case that train is often not the best choice-a bus may be much quicker, cheaper and/or more often. But people who have a pass are often hell-bound to also use it, even if that means much more discomfort. You have to weigh the options yourself. And in some countries people are so much used to trains-as there are no such long-dist. buses, that they cannot even think of such things.
Nono-IF holding pass, its not 40-10 (plus a tiny fee) is the MAX - IF the person selling knows the tricks-and it seems to me they have quite a lot of staff that is clearly incompetent-or at least not well trained. Used a 3-month pass myself last oct and did 3 long trips and that went after the lady got the instructions from a senior (at the tiny office at aeropuerto Barajas/mad) smooth and in total less as 20€ to pay.You probably very well know that only positive and never ever the tiniest bit of negative can be published since 2000 due to prevailing sensibilites in these modern times. Big process and juridical pursuits will follow for sure.The same as all those green wishfulthinkers also never ever mention the many defaults and hassles that train travel can bring-even compared to those airtravel also has.
Dan zal je vast al hebben bemerkt dat je dan een fors aantal treintjes-sommige behoorlijk lang-moet benutten. EN jawel-hoofdprijs-zoals vrijwel elke 1e x doener of groene wensdenker heb je net weer een route gekozen met de meeste obstakels.Zgn QUOta voor passholders zijn er eigenlijk alleen voor die TGV en aanverwante treintjes van de Franse staat-SNCF. Pas je daarin, is het 10€, is die vol voor jouw trein/dag/rit, dan wordt het 20-totdat de trein zelf mudjevol is.Maar NOG veel erger is het voor de INTERNat treinen die TGV-familie zijn; Thalys naar P, TGV/AVE Paris-Bcn. Zeer beperkte quota, heel veel vraag en daarvoor geldt helaas-speculaas (is nu 6/12, dus die tijd is toch over)-quorum vol-volle mep.In ESpana met de staats-RENFE is net nog beroerder: niet echt quota, maar vrijwel onmogelijk vooraf te RES-en dat moet daar op vrijwel elke trein, waarvan ze er dan ook maar heel weinig hebben. Dat doe je op HUN estacion-pas tonen met geldige reisdag! Heel vaak completo.Die passen zijn nie
There MAY be the tiny small chance that they give you some compensation for it-do not count on that. In fact that may look more like: use that Virgin-nownewname train to LON labelled as on 3d but use on 2nd. You have to plea with them to get that done-or not. Perhaps there are some general strike rules for tickets?IF not (there are likely people who know far better as me how that works now that EU-rules apply no more-- Brexit) do the sums: what works out as best value-fly back to MAN from somewhere at end-or if die hard ´allonrails!!´what is lowest extra to pay in fares: to LON, or coming back (but use €* is then also impossible as you need to have global pass valid in all countries on that day.
Von hier, jans weit weg, auch ´ne schöner Tag wunsch ich dir. Tag hat hier schon längst begonnen.I would advise you to try other means: points like yours tend to get very little response here. This forum is for 99% aimed at questions-for about 99% too all the same repatetive) about all the difficulties the various Bahnen put on to make travel as hard as can do. It seems there are various facebook=fb (failbook for some) groups for that-I am not into that, other will know more.What many people also do is more spontaneous team up for shorter times as the whole trip doing some days out etc together- hoStels (many are much more social and much less formal as the old-style DJH you may remember from KlassenAusflug) are often good places to meet like minded others.Oh-und sag dann sofort nicht das du Psy-ho bist- ist oft abschreckend für viele- Dr. Seuss/Seelenkneifer.
So this point of frugality etc has been solved?As also been told to you: between Sof and Split/Zag it will be mostly BUS=extra expense.There are tons of various forums and blogs about the apparently all extremely unique virtues of even the most mediocre tourist-or less so-towns. Tripadvisor.com is the best known-about every minor possible query has been treated there. For youngers: inyourpocket series does mostly East-EUR, a big part of your trip, which again seems mostly a capital collector. Perhaps your library still stocks a slightly older LonelyPLanet guidebook-except for the prices still an old-style goldmine of that info-and very much aimed at people like you. They also once did a very knowledgeable and funny forum-thorntree- but that has gone down the drains when aunty BBC took it over for way too much money.My 2 cts would be-as I now count 15 stops (some like Mostar, only that bridge=see in 22 mins): Assume the binge-drinking BG coast will mean a longer stop for rest.put in PL
From NIce to Marseille are about ev 2 hrs TER=regional NO RES trains.From Msl change-find times best via bahn.com-along coast via Tarascon-Montpellier-Narbonne-to Either Cerbere (=last stop In FR, former border check-now no more) or with luck Port Bou (same over border for ESpana). From there ev 1 - 2 hrs local RENFE Rodalies Cat-Express trenes to Bcn, NO RES even possible and very, very hard to find on planners. PLUS that as per 11/12=next sunday ALL timetables change and the former/this week still running direct AVE/TGV Msl-Bcn is no more!This way the ride will take much longer but involve no extra cost at all. IF you want to spend dinero by using the now only 2/day TGV MOntpellier-Bcn (coming from Paris)-then go in Nice to counter and let them see if anything can be done-expect also NO. BUT his may mean you have to change stations in Mpl-forfeiting most of time gained.The TGV only stops in Sants, the Rod trenes in many stops under Bcn-centre, so may deliver you much closer to HTL bo
Hey Singy from that fine smart city with Woodlands and Jurong to Sentosa:it is-as can be expected, very clear in the rules- as long as you are 27Y364D -or a little less on 1ST day of activation the pass, can use it till end also after happy birthday! (the railways will however not give you a present on that day!)If you grow older and older and would like to try again-those turning senior also have to wait till they are indeed that old on 1st day.Lah! Selamat jalan!
Trenes are no aeroplenes-no assigned seats. More like the autobuses, but bigger. In fact I even think the tiny tren in CR also works like that-but its hardly known.I´ve done all those rides-untill LIlle as recent a few weeks ago and could always sit.YOu have likely set your planner to ´No RES´ and then you get a very long cumbersome ride like this. Flying direct to Paris would have saved all that. UNless you really plan to stay f.e. in Arras or Amiens-for 10€ extra-mostly you can also use the hourly direct superfast TGV-the pride of FRance-Lille-Paris-in 1 hr.
You probably did not, but also did not read the dozens of very similar posts here-that the system translates your time to that at that mo in EUR. So when you did that late eve-its already next day in EUR. That is one major reason why we strongly tell anyone to not do that activation so long before. Those from AU+NZ face the same the other way.Again: make a fierce complaint in how they treat customers and not even tell them on how to adjust this nuisance. Perhaps, finally, in the end they may get the message.THis is one of the unforseen hindrances they did not properly check before launching this online system to replace the old paper passes.The same may apply if you try to make RES via their app-so also: avoid that and use other ways.
According to 1000s of old folktales you Scots are amazing frugal savers, but lets just put that in the book of history for now.That makes roughly 50gbp=55€ (the money of choice in nearly all of EUR)/day. You put the question wrong: it is not CAN it be done-anything is possible- but HOW it can be done-or: what can I expect to get for that money-incl.- what are my basic needs.If you drink+smoke and have to pay for that-forget it, even though fags+booze will often be cheaper on the continent.I assume you are young-around 20 and have NO real exp. at all to travel out of that funny island in the NorthSea, and even from that northern part that wants to break off it, or at least its female president.The usual Brits that follow this forum will now all shout out; canNOT-shorten trip time or save more.In fact you got it wrong already; Berlin-medium, Prahy-medium, B-lava-cheap, Bpest-cheap are not among the costlier places. And RO may present you a nasty surprise, also becse cheap there also mea
Selamat hari dari disini, mas/tuan. Saya orang dari Belanda, sekarang di Bangkok.Take pass for 22 days-your plans are really ambitious, I count 17 places to visit in 21 days- and as most are fairly close by, the sectors are too short for overnighttrains in most cases. The difference in cost between 22 D and f.e. 15 days in 2 M is so small, it makes no sense to check for local karcis2 for short sectors.Minimise the time sitting in trains/finding HTL etc-make some daytrips out of nearby places.Visit to both Swiss and Austria makes the routing more difficult. In Swiss the pass is not valid (but with diskaun) in trains south of Interlaken into the mountains.Lucky thing is that once you have left ITalia (and with even more kereta/jam you will find place-but last minute perhaps not all so close together) you do not really need RES-but it may be wise for busy times/busy days, in DE easy to do yourself via bahn.com-seat only. Except the Overnite trains of course.@2: there is also a internal DB
As for 4/12: I think there are=often the answer to such riddles, again some works along the hi-speed tracks in NL-leading to longer triptimes and reroutings and also trains cancelled/shortened as this has to be due to limited nr of sets. The break via BRU is so well-known and also a money -saver, and even also via the internal SNCF-TGV till LIlle and then onward via Antwerpen-AMS. But these trains also use the notsohi-speed line in NL and may be rerouted then.(this makes them pass my home close by, except that I am not there right now)You have to accept that on such lines with all-RES etc passes are not a premium product for low price but only a last resort, like airlines used to have ´if seat available=standby´. IF you want premium-pay for it. Or be creative in using them.
In fact getting TO Bgr will put you for the same prob: as ALL INternat trains to there are no more (except from the black mountains=Cerna Gora). Again seat61.com will show ALT routings, but be aware that these cumbersome part train-walk-bus/taxi-other train ways make you loose many hrs and may in the end even cost more as a direct bus ticket. This is only for diehard railfans or those who are so much anti-bus that any expense is warranted for that. Sensible people take it as it is.BTW-Bgr does not offer that much to see, my advice would be as it is now: skip it. IF Sofia is your destination-take the routing via HU/B.pest-Romania, also detailed again in seat61
Hi, what you could look into is checking if there are any other trains going out that late-and coming back in town that early-but I am afraid from/to Paris-Nord there will not be much. F.e. in DE=Germany this is often quite possible. After all your pass gives you the right to use as many trains as can manage in 1 travelday-and you use both anyway.(there used to be a very slow overnight seats only train Paris/Est-Strasbourg, the last stop in FR going to south DE, but I think that is no more)Agree with all above that it is a very UNwise idea to even think about staying in those stations there overnight.
THis is reported here about daily-always from US/CA or from the other side of the world-AU+NZ. has to do that site sets the times you are in to those in EUR at the time-so when you do late eve its already next day in EUR. The same thing can happen when you try to RES via that app/site. That is one major reason why we warn anyone to not activate when really ready to use-here. It is also, contrary to what all newbees think, not needed to activate to make those precious RES.YOu can contact service via a special form to change it-they must be very well used to it.Now of course anyone with the MIN of brains ask why they do this idiot way: you have to ask them that. Make more complaints-maybe at last the ball starts rolling by them………..
It should be self-evident that all this info can easily be found in the general site. And in case you decide to buy a pass, you will also not be taken by hand or US-style just call for any shriek but have to fetch for yourself. Yes, can be a challenge for some.Valid in 33 countries=covers about all of EUR west of what once used to be Soviet-Rossye. Except-always-Albania, includes Turkey.BUT; some of these are notorious hard to travel in, due to need to RES nearly all and also via cumbersome way: ESpana, followed by FRance and ITaly. Prepare yourself very well for that-or change plans-it also seems that each&every newbee falls in the very same traps by wanting just those trains that are hardest to get.Some minor countries in what once was Yugoslavija are cut off from the network as they have only a very few, very bad, very cheap domestic services: Serbije, Bosnia, Macedonia. A pass is simply not very useful there.
For those that cost like 5-6€-forget it, that will be lost.For higher priced-check on the mail you get with it what do in such a case.BTW: you must be the very first one from Gibraltar to post here-welcome! Now I wonder what homecountry is-simply also ESpana (oh my dear. what a disgrace) or that they allow you also unlimited travel on RENFE. Same may apply to those from like Andorra, MOnaco etc.
Watdee khrap. Kamlang yoo tee PraNakornPai is a lovely small village north of ChiangMai.Yes-it is for the app etc-and also very much when you activate, year 2022, not 2565.And as anyone above already explains: always better to use other ways to make these RES-and if you can tell us for what trips-there may also be alternatives that use other trains and are without, but may take longer.
@your remark re very difficult etc: as such that is true for THESE lines-well over 90-95% of all trains running here in EUR do not even need any RES-but all those newbees that pass by here every day all want to use exactly just those trains that are the hardest to get. There must be some silly reason for that. And yes, this is not Shosoloza Mel.
Daddy/uncle google will help in a few seconds with these questions. S-J does indeed have pretty good-due to lack of railways-connections to all surrounding major cities. BUT those from Beograd do NOT serve the city proper-due to those immense rifts between the various tribes there they end in the Serb quarter which has a different name (and I forgot which)In fact this does not only apply to Bosnia, but also more or less to Serbije and Macedonia- NO-or very, very few-trains over borders to there. A pass is a waste of money using there-the trains that do run-if at all-are pretty cheap-even cheaper as the worst of regionale in south -Italia
Well, as canuck you use FRench overthere……..Verbier seems like the name of a valley and mostly famous for wintersports-you have to search/use the name of a real town/village. AND-no need to tell that all the times again-use local planner first-as can be expected in a country with very good organised public transit: sbb.ch or cff.ch or sbb.com. NOW the prob: YOUR pass will only be valid on SBB (main Swiss railways) and also a host of local /regional minor sidelines, but not all. You´ll have to do either some searches all by yourself or come back with much more detail so that others may help. These yellow POSTbuses where Swiss is also so famous for, are not included in THIS pass. NOR are any of the multitude of cable/rack/mountain etc railways/cableways-and these tend to be quite expensive. IF your stay is mostly limited to there-it might be better to swap for the Swiss TOurist pass-covers much more as just some trains.
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