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2 trips from my home country / 4 travel days...possible?

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Hi,

its a shame that interrail doesnt have a real support, just a bot which isnt really working for me, so here we go with my questions:

I have a 1 month interrail pass with 4 trips (incl. 2 home country days)

  1. Berlin → Zermatt (Mo, 23.01.2023)
  2. Zermatt → Berlin (Fr, 27.01.)
  3. Berlin (or Hamburg, not sure yet) → Bordeaux (09.02.)
  4. Bordeaux → Berlin (14.02.)

How can i use this pass in the best way?

Like i was planning it right now its not possible, because i have 4 home country ride, correct?

What do i do with the bordeaux rides? book a normal ticket for the DB from what station or until what station?

 

Looking forward to hear from you and thank you for your help

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Best answer by AnnaB 21 January 2023, 21:18

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@seewulf

14.02. Bordeaux → Berlin

09:46 TGV 8530 → Paris

13:10 ICE 9553 Paris EST → Frankfurt

17:14 Frankfurt → Berlin

 

 

Achtung!!!! der ICE9553 fährt nur bis Mannheim bitte plane deine Reise über Bahn.de oder den DB Navigator 

Das Problem ist leider das deine Grenzüberschreitenden Züge nicht mehr in Forbach halten :/ somit gibt es hier keine “leichte Lösung” und du gehst am besten mal in ein DB Reisezentrum oder eine Erfahrene Bahnagentur wie Kopfbahnhof (Yorckstraße), Bahnagentur Schöneberg (nähe Julius-Leber Brücke) oder die Bahnfüchse in Berlin-Köpenik

Ich persönlich hätte meine Inlandsreisetage für die Fahrt nach Bordeaux verwendet und für meine Fahrt nach Zermatt denn einen DB Sparpreis bis Basel (es würde auch ein Flixtrain nach Basel fahren) 
@SaraR  
Ich hätte noch eine etwas leichtere Verbindung als Vorschlag 
 

Hier würdest du bis nach Strasbourg eine DB Fahrkarte kaufen und denn ab Strasbourg direkt nach Bordeaux du sparts den Umstieg in Paris und die 2.Reservierung da du nur einen TGV nutzt

 

I´ am not working for Eurail or Interrail i just share my knowledge here. Please ask in the Community and not via private message as this is the fastest way to get an answer. I prefer English/German/ Czech for my answers. In case of Reservationquestions please share some details like Route, Date, Trainnumber as otherwise we can just provide general advices or answers
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@seewulf

14.02. Bordeaux → Berlin

09:46 TGV 8530 → Paris

13:10 ICE 9553 Paris EST → Frankfurt

17:14 Frankfurt → Berlin

 

 

Achtung!!!! der ICE9553 fährt nur bis Mannheim bitte plane deine Reise über Bahn.de oder den DB Navigator 

Das Problem ist leider das deine Grenzüberschreitenden Züge nicht mehr in Forbach halten 😕 somit gibt es hier keine “leichte Lösung” und du gehst am besten mal in ein DB Reisezentrum oder eine Erfahrene Bahnagentur wie Kopfbahnhof (Yorckstraße), Bahnagentur Schöneberg (nähe Julius-Leber Brücke) oder die Bahnfüchse in Berlin-Köpenik

Ich persönlich hätte meine Inlandsreisetage für die Fahrt nach Bordeaux verwendet und für meine Fahrt nach Zermatt denn einen DB Sparpreis bis Basel (es würde auch ein Flixtrain nach Basel fahren) 
@SaraR  
Ich hätte noch eine etwas leichtere Verbindung als Vorschlag 
 

Hier würdest du bis nach Strasbourg eine DB Fahrkarte kaufen und denn ab Strasbourg direkt nach Bordeaux du sparts den Umstieg in Paris und die 2.Reservierung da du nur einen TGV nutzt

 

@SaraR Nur falls du das in Erwägung ziehen solltest: Die hier gezeigte leichtere Verbindung ist keine praktikable Idee; der TGV ist bereits ausgebucht.

Die Fahrttage in Deutschland zu verwenden und für die Verbindung in die Schweiz die Fahrkarte bis Basel zu bezahlen würde für sinnvolle Verbindungen auch erheblich teurer werden als das Geplante.

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So just to close this down - If I want to cross the border on a TGV/ICE with a global pass and a mandatory reservation I would still have to pay an extra supplement of 16 euro? 

You need to pay 16€ wich is Reservation + surcharge. You can’t book only the reservation or only the surcharge. 

But many of the posts suggested that wasn’t the case - you had to buy the supplement separately on any train over the border. I asked earlier if it was incorporated in the reservation for pass holders - that would have solved the issue instantly. 

So the advice to anybody without a in/out day is still get to the tariff point with your least cost domestic fare for the appropriate train, and then activate your pass for the first train at or beyond the tariff point.

I assume also that anybody travelling on this ICE/TGV service is also totally unaware that part of their ticket price includes a fee for crossing the border.

I admit I still don’t understand it fully but enough is enough.

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The outbound/inbound rule says that you can travel on a maximum of two travel days in your country of residence so you need to buy tickets for 2 of your travels within Germany. 

Please note that I don't work for Interrail/Eurail and that I don't reply to personal messages.
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Es gibt für die Frankreichverbindungen den Tarif "Passzuschlag 2", den man erhält, wenn man eine Netzkarte hat, die nur in Frankreich gilt. Der deckt den deutschen Streckenanteil ab.

Den auch schon nicht ganz günstigen Tarif "Passzuschlag 1" braucht man für die grenzüberschreitenden ICE / TGV eh, auch wenn man die Fahrttage im Heimatland nutzt. Mit "Passzuschlag 2" braucht man den aber nicht mehr.

Da hilft aber nur der Gang ins Reisebüro am Bahnhof. Ich würde dort mal den Preis für den Passzuschlag 2 für das konkrete Datum abchecken lassen. 

Wirklich was sparen wird man (auf der Strecke) aber wohl nur durch einen günstigen Tarif nach Saarbrücken und dann mit dem Bummelzug über die Grenze nach Forbach oder Metz. Hält natürlich zeitlich auf. 

Die offizielle Grenze auf der Strecke ist tariflich übrigens tatsächlich auf freier Strecke und nicht im Bahnhof. Grenztarifpunkt ist Forbach (fr). Das ist in dem Fall aber völlig theoretisch. Eine Fahrkarte nach Forbach (also dem ersten Bahnhof hinter der Grenze) zu kaufen ist unnötig und wäre sowieso zu teuer (im ICE / TGV).

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You cannot buy a ticket to a physical border point,

Yes you can. That has always been possible and remains possible, as long as the physical border point is also a tariff border point. It's just that DB have now implemented this a bit differently with their "Passzuschlag”.

Please ask questions in the community and not via a private message. That's the quickest way to get a response. I don't work for Eurail/Interrail.
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@seewulf

hier meine konkrete Zugverbindung. Die anderen Post helfen, aber ich habe immer noch Probleme mit dem Passzuschlag 2 und wo ich mir wie welches Anschlussticket besorgen.

Also diese 2 Verbindungen wären für mich relevant (mit dem Interrail Global Pass, alle Inbound - Outbound Verbindungen wären durch mein TRp nach Zermatt und zurück schon verbraucht):

09.02. - Berlin Hbf → Bordeaux

08:29 ICE 279 → Manheim

13:42 TGV 9552 → Paris EST

18:07 TGV 8551 Paris Montparnasse → Bordeaux

 

14.02. Bordeaux → Berlin

09:46 TGV 8530 → Paris

13:10 ICE 9553 Paris EST → Frankfurt

17:14 Frankfurt → Berlin

 

Welche Karte kaufe ich mir im deutschen Bereich bis Grenzstadt bei der DB oder über Passzuschlag 2 und welche Karte über meine Interrail App für meine 2 weiteren Pass Fahrten?

 

Freu mich auf eine Antwort und 1000 DANK

 

Also wenn es diese Verbindung sein soll, dann fällt die Option, mit dem Regionalzug über die Grenze zu fahren weg, da weder der TGV auf der Hinfahrt noch der ICE auf der Rückfahrt in Forbach halten. 

Wenn das Interrail-Ticket verwendet wird (vgl. das Fettgedruckte unten), wird in jedem Fall ein "Passzuschlag 2" benötigt. Das ist alternativlos. Es bleibt nur die Frage, ab wo. Aber das ist jetzt eine reine Frage der Kostenoptimierung. Spätestmöglich ist Saarbrücken Hbf. Es geht aber auch jeder Bahnhof davor. Also die Frage wäre: Wieviel teurer wird eine Fahrkarte zum jeweils nächsten Bahnhof im Vergleich zum Passzuschlag? Entweder also jeden Bahnhof ausprobieren, um den Fahrpreis zu optimieren oder einfach Saarbrücken nehmen. 

Du könntest zwei Stunden früher ab Berlin (6.29) Stand jetzt sehr viel billiger fahren. Wäre die Frage, ob das in Frage käme. Wäre ein Umstieg mehr und zwei Stunden (z.B.) Saarbrücken, um etwa 32 Euro zu sparen (ich bin mal von 2. Klasse ausgegangen). Alternative wäre natürlich immer eine ganz andere Verbindung / Strecke.

Zum Interrail-Pass: Bei einem Pass auf Papier hat man kein Problem, da trägt man den Bahnhof ein, ab dem man den Passzuschlag hat. Ich nehme an, dass die App das nicht verarbeiten kann. Man wird da wohl "Forbach (fr)" mit Länderkennung "Frankreich" nach "Paris Est" manuell eintragen müssen. 

ABER:

Aktuell wäre es günstiger, den Interrail-Pass für die Fahrt nach Paris gar nicht zu verwenden. Der Passzuschlag 2 ist teurer als die Weiterfahrt zu bezahlen. Stand heute früh wäre es für die angegebene Verbindung billiger, einfach eine Fahrkarte Berlin-Paris zu kaufen.

Für die Rückfahrt wäre es aktuell knapp günstiger, den Interrail-Pass zu verwenden. Also: Bis “Forbach (fr)” in der App eintragen, am Bahnhof den Passzuschlag 2 bis Saarbrücken kaufen, ab Saarbrücken eine aktuell noch sehr günstige Fahrkarte nach Berlin kaufen.

(Alle Angaben beziehen sich auf eine Fahrt 2. Klasse, für die erste Klasse sieht es eventuell anders aus. Nur zur Sicherheit: Für den TGV ab Paris nach Bordeaux und zurück braucht es eine obligatorische Reservierung für jeweils 10 €.)

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It’s no problem at all if you have a valid ticket (e.g. a global pass) for the whole journey. Then you may think of this just as “supplement” or “mandatory reservation” you need. But it’s still a significant fee (I’d say) of 16 € (here) if bought at a german station.

It’s always possible to buy a ticket from the last station in country A to the first station in country B. But it may be way too expensive. For instance here: The last stop in Germany is Saarbrücken, the first stop in France is Paris and that’s more than 400 km away. It may not be a good idea to buy a ticket for this if you are holding a railpass for France. But of course it’s possible.

(Some trains do have a stop at Forbach just 10 km away from Saarbrücken - but a normal ICE / TGV ticket for this short journey is 18,50 € 2nd class or 30,50 € 1st class (!) - and from Forbach you’d need the normal 10 € / 20 € supplement for the rest of your journey to Paris if using a railpass. But of course this is just theory, nobody would do this (I hope).) 

And that’s why it’s not even making sense to activate your interrail pass from the first station in France because that’s already the destinaton station of the train (Paris Est to Paris Est?). It wouldn’t be officially correct, too. With a paper pass, nobody cares. With a mobile pass, I think the app wouldn’t let you create a trip from the last station in country A (because your pass isn’t valid here) or would use an inbound / outbound day. So you need to find a way around this, e.g. by adding a trip from this virtual tariff point manually and choose the (for you) correct side of the border. 

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For your hypothetical journeys you won't need a supplement. 

But that's just true because this only exists on the three DB connections mentioned:

  • Cross border services Germany / France with ICE / TGV. 
  • DB-ÖBB-EC to Italy via Brenner.
  • ECE to Italy.

So it doesn't exist for ICE Germany / Belgium or regional trains. 

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We seem to be at cross purposes so  in very simple terms I will use some hypothetical journeys and maybe all will become clear:

I want to go from my home in Cologne to Paris but have no I/O travel days, but a valid Global pass. I decide to use my D Bahn card to Brussels  on the ICE and then change to a Paris service using my Global pass as I am now in Belgium. Do I need to pay a supplement?

No supplement needed, reservation is optional, extra ICE ticket is needed until Aachen Süd(Gr), which is available for the standard fare with any BahnCard discount (25 or 50% discount). Alternatively, you can buy a (Super)Sparpreis to Liège (with any BahnCard discount). That can be cheaper than the normal fare to the tariff border point. If you have a BahnCard 100 (DB Network season ticket), then you don't need any extra ticket, since a BahnCard 100 is valid until the tariff border point, so together with your Interrail, the whole route is covered.

If I  do the same journey without a DBahn card do I buy an advance ticket from Cologne to Brussels or one to the “tariff point” (wherever that is), and then this supplement?

That's the same as above, just without the BahnCard discount.

If I do a regional train and buy a ticket from  Aachen to Welkenraedt (Be) for 4.50 euro then use my global pass to continue to Brussels do I still pay a supplement?

You will also only need a ticket to Aachen Süd(Gr), which from Aachen Hbf (if you're starting there) should only be about €3 for the regional train (BahnCard discount possible). Or no extra ticket with a BahnCard 100. The first station in Belgium is Hergenrath, by the way.

Some railways are now selling tickets from/to the border tariff point as tickets from/to a real station, with 100% discount in the country for which you have a pass. The price should be the same as a ticket from/to the border tariff point. Exceptions exist for international services with mandatory reservations, such as the ICE/TGV services between Germany and France.

Please ask questions in the community and not via a private message. That's the quickest way to get a response. I don't work for Eurail/Interrail.
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So to put my mind at ease:

The original post had this as the translation.

There is a "pass surcharge 2" tariff for connections to France, which you get if you have a network card that is only valid in France. It covers the German part of the route.

You need the "Passport surcharge 1" tariff, which is not exactly cheap, for the cross-border ICE / TGV anyway, even if you use the travel days in your home country. But with "passport surcharge 2" you no longer need it.

But the only thing that helps is going to the travel agency at the train station. I would have the price for the pass surcharge 2 checked there for the specific date. 

You can really save (on the route) but probably only by a cheap fare to Saarbrücken and then with the slow train across the border to Forbach or Metz. Delays in time of course. 

Incidentally, the official limit on the route is actually on the open route and not in the station. Border tariff point is Forbach (fr). In this case, however, this is entirely theoretical. Buying a ticket to Forbach (i.e. the first station after the border) is unnecessary and would be too expensive anyway (in the ICE / TGV).

You may now understand my confusion (still not fully clear) as the inference of the post is that you have to pay for all journeys across the border, but if on the ICE/TGV it is extortionately expensive even if you have a fully valid pass for both countries. 

So if I want to travel on one of these ICE/TGVs with a full Global pass how much extra do I have to pay and where is it paid?

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So to put my mind at ease:

The original post had this as the translation.

There is a "pass surcharge 2" tariff for connections to France, which you get if you have a network card that is only valid in France. It covers the German part of the route.

You need the "Passport surcharge 1" tariff, which is not exactly cheap, for the cross-border ICE / TGV anyway, even if you use the travel days in your home country. But with "passport surcharge 2" you no longer need it.

But the only thing that helps is going to the travel agency at the train station. I would have the price for the pass surcharge 2 checked there for the specific date. 

You can really save (on the route) but probably only by a cheap fare to Saarbrücken and then with the slow train across the border to Forbach or Metz. Delays in time of course. 

Incidentally, the official limit on the route is actually on the open route and not in the station. Border tariff point is Forbach (fr). In this case, however, this is entirely theoretical. Buying a ticket to Forbach (i.e. the first station after the border) is unnecessary and would be too expensive anyway (in the ICE / TGV).

You may now understand my confusion (still not fully clear) as the inference of the post is that you have to pay for all journeys across the border, but if on the ICE/TGV it is extortionately expensive even if you have a fully valid pass for both countries.

 

Ok, I think I got it (what the misunderstanding has been) - at least I hope so.

The missing part is: You don’t need a supplement across the border in general (we’re talking about the german-french border only), you just need a supplement across the border for the german-french corporation ICE / TGV.

Next thing: It’s not cheap, but it’s not that expensive compared to a normal TGV reservation. The “Passzuschlag 1” is 16 € if bought at a german station, the reservation for an ICE / TGV in France is 10 € or 20 € - so the 16 € supplement may even be a better deal sometimes. 

And: If you’d buy a ticket to Forbach and would use a railpass from Forbach to Paris, it would be really expensive if you would like to stay in the ongoing train. 

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So to put my mind at ease:

The original post had this as the translation.

There is a "pass surcharge 2" tariff for connections to France, which you get if you have a network card that is only valid in France. It covers the German part of the route.

You need the "Passport surcharge 1" tariff, which is not exactly cheap, for the cross-border ICE / TGV anyway, even if you use the travel days in your home country. But with "passport surcharge 2" you no longer need it.

But the only thing that helps is going to the travel agency at the train station. I would have the price for the pass surcharge 2 checked there for the specific date. 

You can really save (on the route) but probably only by a cheap fare to Saarbrücken and then with the slow train across the border to Forbach or Metz. Delays in time of course. 

Incidentally, the official limit on the route is actually on the open route and not in the station. Border tariff point is Forbach (fr). In this case, however, this is entirely theoretical. Buying a ticket to Forbach (i.e. the first station after the border) is unnecessary and would be too expensive anyway (in the ICE / TGV).

You may now understand my confusion (still not fully clear) as the inference of the post is that you have to pay for all journeys across the border, but if on the ICE/TGV it is extortionately expensive even if you have a fully valid pass for both countries.

 

Ok, I think I got it (what the misunderstanding has been) - at least I hope so.

The missing part is: You don’t need a supplement across the border in general (we’re talking about the german-french border only), you just need a supplement across the border for the german-french corporation ICE / TGV.

Next thing: It’s not cheap, but it’s not that expensive compared to a normal TGV reservation. The “Passzuschlag 1” is 16 € if bought at a german station, the reservation for an ICE / TGV in France is 10 € or 20 € - so the 16 € supplement may even be a better deal sometimes. 

And: If you’d buy a ticket to Forbach and would use a railpass from Forbach to Paris, it would be really expensive if you would like to stay in the ongoing train. 

So just to close this down - If I want to cross the border on a TGV/ICE with a global pass and a mandatory reservation I would still have to pay an extra supplement of 16 euro? 
 

 

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So just to close this down - If I want to cross the border on a TGV/ICE with a global pass and a mandatory reservation I would still have to pay an extra supplement of 16 euro? 

You need to pay 16€ wich is Reservation + surcharge. You can’t book only the reservation or only the surcharge. 

Do you have any questions? Feel free to ask in the community! Known languages: Deutsch, Italiano, English.
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No, the supplement does include the mandatory reservation. In fact, if you’d ask for a mandatory reservation, they will sell you this supplement. Maybe we could say it’s just the name... 

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I think you tried to touch on a bit of French-German "Bureaucrazy" discussion here @Yorkie . This didn't really classify for light Sunday evening reading... The general advice is to steer way clear of it when it happens ;) 

But at least I understand the terms now. Some other railwaybmystery solved. Thanks people! 

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Hi Anna,

ok. So i need to buy a DB ticket from Berlin (or HH) to the first city in France (behind the boarder), right? or to the city on the german side before the boarder? 

e.g.

TGV Mannheim → Paris EST

Mannheim

Kaiserslautern

Saarbrucken

Forbach (FR

Paris - EST

 

So i buy a ticket until Forbach with the DB?

 

looking forward to hearing from you and thank you for your fast answer

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You should buy a ticket to the border station.

If you look up the train you will travel with across the border on DB you can see all stations and there you can see which the border station is.

Otherwise I'm sure that @rvdborgt or @seewulf will let you know which the border station is.

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I am sorry but the translation of your post has me totally confused?

Surely the situation is simply that the original poster finds the least cost way to get over the border to the first station classed as “France”. In some stations they actually have 2 identifiers in the planner e.g. Basle, where you can select Basle (Swiss) or Basle (Ger).

You cannot buy a ticket to a physical border point, so are you suggesting they buy a ticket  to the last station in Germany and then travel to the first station in France where they activate their pass?

Although not a German speaker, the translation of the “pass zuschlag” is also confusing - can anybody explain if this is something non German travellers should be aware of? It translates as a surcharge for anybody crossing a border from Germany using an Interrail pass. The only surcharge I am aware of is the Brenner pass supplement when you use an ECB in Italy.

Or is it simply if you have a DBahn pass that allows free travel in Germany you can pay a supplement to cross the border?

Or something completely different?

 

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To get from Germany to France without using the Inbound/Outbound you need a ticket till the "Grenztarifpunkt" would be the Border Fare Station (virtual) in this case Forbach (fr). 

To France there is no border stations that are for train fares in Germany and France but only this virtual points where DB and SNCF change their fares. 

Pass Zuschlag is in German Pass surcharge (wich is in this case and of all trains in western europe with compulsory reservation, because the price is way more than the cost of a reservation)

There is Passzuschlag 1 - the normal Interrail reservation fare.

Passzuschlag 2 - the ticket fare where you pay for the German Part, because you have a ticket for France + Reservation cost)

For people that have a ticket in Germany but not in France. They pay from the last station in Germany (it is strange but DB has to make money, only the case on this route using ICE/TGV, with local trains from the border fare point). 

 

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I am sorry but the translation of your post has me totally confused?

Surely the situation is simply that the original poster finds the least cost way to get over the border to the first station classed as “France”. In some stations they actually have 2 identifiers in the planner e.g. Basle, where you can select Basle (Swiss) or Basle (Ger).

You cannot buy a ticket to a physical border point, so are you suggesting they buy a ticket  to the last station in Germany and then travel to the first station in France where they activate their pass?

Although not a German speaker, the translation of the “pass zuschlag” is also confusing - can anybody explain if this is something non German travellers should be aware of? It translates as a surcharge for anybody crossing a border from Germany using an Interrail pass. The only surcharge I am aware of is the Brenner pass supplement when you use an ECB in Italy.

Or is it simply if you have a DBahn pass that allows free travel in Germany you can pay a supplement to cross the border?

Or something completely different?

 

In Germany, there are different types of rail pass supplements when using a cross-border service. "Passzuschlag" and the relevant number is what you need to ask for when buying it at a station. It's simply the official name.

"Passzuschlag 2" means that you do have a valid rail pass for (here) France but not for Germany. You can't buy a ticket to the border point, so you need to buy this Passzuschlag. 

"Passzuschlag 1" means that you hold a valid rail pass for the whole journey. You know this type from the Brenner supplement. In ÖBB speech it's called "Aufpreis Brennerverkehr". The same exists also for other IC / EC cross border services from Austria into Italy (e.g. Wien to Trieste) or Slovakia (e.g. Wien to Bratislava) or Railjet services via Tarvisio.  

Yes, there's also a Passzuschlag if you are holding a rail pass (just) for Germany. That's the third one.

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For people that have a ticket in Germany but not in France. They pay from the last station in Germany (it is strange but DB has to make money, only the case on this route using ICE/TGV, with local trains from the border fare point). 

 

That's "Passzuschlag 3" (for ICE / TGV). No need to buy a ticket from the last station. 

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hier die Fragen, weil ich jetzt weiß, dass ich für 2 Fahrten aus Deutschland nicht 4 Hin- und Rückfahrten nutzen kann (da ja max. 2x bei 4 Fahrten im Pass). für die 2. Fahrt nach Bordeaux müsste ich ein weiteres DB-Ticket kaufen.
Fragen:
Ich muss also ein DB-Ticket von Berlin (oder HH) bis zur ersten Stadt in Frankreich (hinter der Grenze) kaufen, richtig? oder bis zur Stadt auf der deutschen Seite vor der Grenze?
z.B..
TGV Mannheim → Paris EST
Mannheim
Kaiserslautern
Saarbrücken
Forbach (FR
Paris - EST

also kaufe ich eine fahrkarte bis Forbach mit der DB? oder bis saarbrücken? wenn ich das bei der DB überprüfe, kostet die fahrkarte bis saarbrücken 65€, aber bis forbach 164€. das macht keinen sinn, denn die letzte fahrt wäre ein RE, aber ich möchte den TGV ab Mannheim benutzen. was soll ich also tun?

ich freue mich auf ihre meldung und danke ihnen

Die Frage ist mit welchem TGV sie ab Mannheim nach Paris fahren wollen? Es gibt TGV´s die fahren über Saarbrücken & Forbach wiederum andere fahren ab Mannheim über Karlsruhe/Strassbourg :) 

Um geld zu Sparen bevorzuge ich generell die TGV´s erst ab der 1.franzöischen Station zunutzen
Denn man kann die franz. Inlandsreservierungen Online buchen.
Jene sind günstiger 10€ (begrenzte Verfügbarkeit) oder 20€ bis der Zug ausverkauft ist. 
Einige Internationale TGV Reservierungen sind nur begrenzt für Interrailpassnutzer verfügbar z.B. Paris - Mailand oder Paris - Barcelona 

Ich kenne ihre Reisedaten nicht aber seit Dezember gibt 1x wöchentlich einen direkten TGV aus Freiburg über Strassbourg (hier würde ich einsteigen) nach Bordeaux (um den Umstieg in Paris zu ersparen.) 

Sie werden theorhetisch eine Fahrkarte bis zum “virtuellen” Grenztarifpunkt brauchen aber die DB stellt keine Fahrkarten mehr zu jenen Punkten aus deshalb ist es oftmals der 1.Halt hinter der Grenze. 
hier stellt sich jetzt die Frage mit welchem Zug sie ab Mannheim fahren wollen? (Tag,Uhrzeit oder die Zugnummer) 

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Excuse my complete confusion.

Q1. - If I have a Global pass and want to travel across borders, as long as my pass is valid in both countries there is no fee/supplement on any train - correct or not?
Q2 - If my Global (or single country pass) is not valid in one of the countries I have to pay a supplement to travel from the last station in Country A to the first station in country B. - correct or not? Why can’t I simply pay for a standard ticket from last station in A to first station in B?

Q3 - If I buy a normal ticket from any station in Country A to a station in country B (e,g, Mannheim to Strasbourg) Do I still pay the supplement?
Q4 - Is this only the case in Germany?

Q5 - I noticed in one post it was only for trains with compulsory reservations, but there are very few of those in Germany. Also a reference to the Brenner pass supplement. but that train does not have mandatory reservations - so what is going on?

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Excuse my complete confusion.

Q1. - If I have a Global pass and want to travel across borders, as long as my pass is valid in both countries there is no fee/supplement on any train - correct or not?

Not correct. Depends on countries, trains and concrete route.

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