Timetables will be on DB as soon as they are loaded on the database by the companies. However you can't book reservations there. Either you make them on eurail.com (2€ fee per person per train) or through the railway company whenever possible -> have a look at https://www.seat61.com/interrail-and-eurail-reservations.htm

When would you like to travel ? Most timetables for this summer have not been published yet.

You've got 3 main routes from Madrid (although those night trains aren't daily year-round!) :

Option 1 :

- fast train Madrid - San Sebastian

- Euskotren San Sebastian - Hendaye (3-4€, not included)

- night train Hendaye - Paris

Option 2 :

- AVE Madrid - Barcelona

- Cercanias Barcelona - Latour

- night train Latour - Paris

Option 3 :

- AVE Madrid - Barcelona/Girona

- Cercanias Barcelona/Girona - Cerbère

- night train Cerbère - Paris

Have a look at this too : https://www.seat61.com/international-trains/trains-from-Madrid.htm#Spain-Paris (the Hendaye sleeper is missing but it doesn't run daily/outside summer)

Entendi em partes. Eu olho no site da empresa, mas não posso reservar por lá. Ok! Mas como reservar pela Eurail se não aparece na pesquisa pelo APP?

Vou olhar detalhadamente o que me escreveu acima. Agradecida!

Qualquer coisa volto aqui.

Please specify which train you want to book: route, date, departure time.

What the rail planner app is showing is not relevant since it's incomplete and unreliable.

Rota: Madrid para Paris

Data: 25/01, com preferência para o translado a noite porque minha reserva de hotel é só no dia 26/01 em Paris.

Estou fazendo pesquisa e achei o preço da reserva bem caro, pois 22 euros, menor preço, para cada integrante fica em torno de 460 reais para minha família (2 adultos e 2 crianças).

Daí tenho me perguntado se o cartão pass global foi um bom investimento?

Which one? @thibcabe proposed 3.

All 3 night trains proposed cost €20 per person for a couchette, which is actually quite cheap for a couchette. On top of that, there wil be a reservation fee to get to the departure station of the night train (€6.50 or €10 per person depending on route).

That depends on what other journeys you'll be making with the pass. You can use e.g. www.raileurope.com to compare prices with and without a pass.

@rvdborgt obrigada.

Encontrei um percurso de Madrid para Iron(00hs) do dia 25/01, com continuidade às 4:50 da madrugada para chegar em Paris umas 10:40.

Podemos ficar na estação do metrô esse tempo de espera? 

Entretanto, vou utilizar 2 dias do meu passe global :(

Eu gerei o QRCode desse passaporte, que informe na mensagem acima, mas não aparece o campo para fazer pagamento desta reserva. Como faço?

Madrid - Hendaye 17:38 as 00:00hs

Hendaye - Paris 04:48 as 09:54, exatamente.

Quero pagar esses percursos da nossa família 

You cannot book reservations in the app. Please look here where to book reservations:

https://www.seat61.com/interrail-and-eurail-reservations.htm

You can also take a seat on the night trains mentioned. That would be €10 per person. I'd rather do that than wait in a station in the middle of the night. That would also cost only 1 travel day.

In addition, it's not a good idea to activate your pass or a travel day in advance. It's not needed to book reservations.

Hendaye station is closed from 23:35 to 04:30 (info easily available online). I’d also not recommend waiting outside in January. The following day in Paris would be miserable... Please take a night train (seat or couchette) or spend the night in a hotel.

Remember that with a night train you save accommodation in a hotel so 20€ per person is good value!

Now that you added the dates I’ll try to help.

Option via Hendaye :

• ARC Madrid-Chamartin - San Sebastian 08:43 - 13:37 1maybe on eurail.com, otherwise at RENFE counters. Cannot check right now as interrail.eu seems broken for me]
• Euskotren across the border to Hendaye every 30 min : 3-4€, Eurail not valid → get tickets there. The Euskotren station is a 10-15 min walk.
• TER Hendaye - Dax 17:53 - 19:13 or earlier
• Intercités de nuit Dax - Paris-Austerlitz 20:18 - 07:17 10€ seat, 20€ couchette

Option via Latour :

• AVE Madrid-Atocha - Barcelona-Sants 09:30 - 12:37
• R3 Barcelona-Sants - Latour-de-Carol 14:31 - 17:51
• Intercités de nuit Latour-de-Carol - Paris-Austerlitz 18:50 - 07:03

Que perfeito suas explicações! Desculpe-me minha ignorância, mas ainda tenho dúvidas em como reservar esse percurso, entretanto, pelos horários comprometem, pois chegarei do Brasil em Madrid as 11:20hs.

Vou tentar rever os trechos até chegar em Dax por volta das 20hs.

 

Eu comprei este passe global, pois viajarei:

Madrid - paris

paris - Londres

Paris - Suiça (Interlaken)

Interlaken - Milão ou Veneza

Veneza - Roma

Roma - Valencia (es)

Valencia - Lisboa.

 

To muito muito muito perdida nessas reservas, pois não imaginei que seriam todas pagas em valores tão altos, ao meu ver, além do passe de 10 dias que paguei quase 6.500,00.

Obrigada por estar me ajudando.

First please have a look at :

https://www.seat61.com/how-to-use-a-eurail-pass.htm

https://www.seat61.com/interrail-and-eurail-reservations.htm

Basically high-speed trains and night trains require reservations. Some are very expensive (but tickets on those routes are too!) : cross-border trains like Eurostar, TGVs to Spain and Switzerland,... Basically trains you're likely to take…

There are a few ways to save money but it takes longer and you need to change more : a regional train across the border, etc.

I'll try to help a bit. Questions welcome.

Madrid - Paris : since you're landing at around midday it won't be possible to reach Paris using a night train. Either you take a flight (remember that cabin and hold luggage cost extra) or spend the night in Madrid before travelling the following day.

I'd choose that option because you never know what could happen when flying + you don't want to travel for multiple hours after a long flight with jetlag!

On Friday either AVE to Barcelona (10€) + TGV to Paris (35€) (-> 09:30 - 20:18) or one of these cheaper but longer options :

First my favourite :

- Madrid-Chamartin - San Sebastian 08:43 - 13:37 around 10€ âI cannot check whether this train is available on eurail.com or not]

- Euskotren San Sebastian - Hendaye 14:15 - 14:52 or 14:45 - 15:22 3-4€

- TGV Hendaye - Paris 16:11 - 20:55 10€

Option 2 (not cheaper and a bit more risky) :

- AVE Madrid-Atocha - Barcelona-Sants 08:00 - 10:30 10€

- R Barcelona-Sants - Cerbère 11:16 - 13:56

- TER Cerbère - Nîmes Pont du Gard 14:20 - 17:58

- TGV Nîmes Pont du Gard - Paris Gare de Lyon 18:13 - 21:04 10€

Paris - London : 30€ mandatory reservation. There's a passholder quota too so book as soon as possible. It's an extremely popular route. No alternatives.

If budget is limited and/or you don't want to pay 240€ (4 x 2 x 30€) in Eurostar reservations, keep London for another trip.

Paris - Interlaken :

Direct TGV high-speed trains to Switzerland cost 29€ in 2nd class but you can easily avoid them! Take any TGV to Strasbourg or Mulhouse (10€ limited fare, then 20€) and then a fast TER regional train across the border to Basel. Book the TGV in advance.

The full journey could be done reservation-free but honestly the savings aren't worth the extra travel time. For example :

- TER Paris-Est - Belfort 08:46 - 12:46 (direct to Mulhouse on weekends)

- TER Belfort - Mulhouse 13:04 - 13:39

- TER Mulhouse - Basel SBB 13:46 - 14:08 or later

- afterwards trains to Interlaken every 30 min (sometimes with an easy change in Bern or Spiez)

Fortunately Swiss trains do not require reservations. Simply log the train you'd like to take to the app before boarding and that's it. Then sit wherever you want (train ends are always less busy).

Btw boats on Lake Thun and Brienz are included but they do not run often in winter.

You also get discounts on mountain railways and cable cars like Schilthorn or Jungfraujoch (25%). The Jungfrau region is still very expensive.

Interlaken - Milan/Venice :

13€ for the cross-border EC train. Possible to take a regional train, easier via Lugano and Chiasso. Check timetables on SBB app or DB Navigator app.

If you leave early you can take a direct train from Brig to Venice so you only pay a reservation once. Otherwise change in Milan.

- ICE Interlaken Ost - Spiez 05:58 - 06:21

- IC6 Spiez - Brig 06:36 - 07:11

- EC Brig - Venezia S. Lucia 07:44 - 12:42 13€

Venice - Rome : 13€ reservation for the direct Frecciarossa train. No other good alternative, just pay the price. Trains run hourly and availability the day before isn't an issue.

Rome - Valencia :

2 full travel days by train (10h+) or ferry to Barcelona (leaves from Civitavecchia). Better to fly if you have limited time.

Valencia - Lisbon :

Very bad train connections between the 2 countries. It would require a night enroute.

Perfeito! Irei analisar ponto a ponto.

Finalizando a primeira rota ainda, mas confiante que dará tudo certo, depois dessas explicações.

Obrigada e até breve!

@thibcabe  olá! Pode me ajudar em um percurso?

 

Será que existe algum percurso de Madrid para Narbonne que chegue antes das 18hs por lá?

Posso fracionar os trechos, contando que chegue neste horário.

No, it won’t work I’m afraid. The only option would be :

• AVE Madrid-Atocha - Narbonne 13:25 - 18:34

Reservations for this train are not possible online. Tickets cost 95€.

I would also advice against risking it : your flight is delayed and you miss everything. Count an hour to leave the airport and 30 min by train to Atocha station. You could go to Barcelona using an evening train (after let’s say 4-5pm) but otherwise please stay in Madrid.

If you really need to be in Paris on Friday morning there are Air Europa flights at 14:25 or 16:30 : around 400€ for 4 people. But don’t you want to visit Madrid a bit ? :)

Pessoal ou @thibcabe pode me ajudar?

Estou em Barcelona. Como chego a Paris saindo daqui o mais cedo possível?

 

 

 

The easiest and fastest would be the direct TGV : Barcelona-Sants 09:28 - Paris Gare de Lyon 16:12.

Reservations cost 35€ per person : use https://www.raileurope.com/ (click on add railpass, only works on computers or enable the desktop version from your phone : https://www.browserstack.com/guide/view-desktop-sites-on-android )

Otherwise book through eurail.com → 2€ fee per person per train.

Would you prefer a lot longer but cheaper way ? Take regional trains via Cerbère and then a TGV from Montpellier or Nîmes. Timetables on bahn.com.

Third option :

• AVE Barcelona-Sants - Lyon Part-Dieu 08:19 - 13:20 10€ only available at the station, plenty of seats left
• TGV Lyon Part-Dieu - Paris Gare de Lyon 14:04 - 16:18 10€

Frankly I’d just take the direct TGV, it’s a long journey.

@thibcabe Qual é a posição do seu médico em Barcelona? (RENFE?) porque não é vendido diretamente para Paris. Quem faz a empresa SNFC.

Você informou uma terceira opção e tem um trecho que devo reservar la, mas qual guiche devo procurar?

The direct TGV is a high-speed train run by SNCF yes. Reservations for this train are available online, follow my advice above. Not possible at the station as SNCF does not have counters (and they don't cooperate with RENFE anymore).

AVE (or AVI - Alta Velocidad Internacional in this case) is a train run by RENFE. There are counters at Sants station but if you wish to take this route go early as there will probably be a queue.

Honestly I'd take the TGV - easier and more importantly available online.

@thibcabe desculpe a insistência, mas é porque estou quebrando a cabeça. Se insistir em usar esse percurso da terceira opção, por que devo chegar cedo para pegar a fila. Mas que fila se não existe balcão SNFC?

Onde tenho que estar? Pergunto, pois posso precisar para o futuro. Por favor.

@thibcabe Quem irá fazer a reserva pra mim se não existe essa empresa operando lá?

Que local eu chego para reservar? E.pagar.?

You make the booking online using one of the websites I listed above (Rail Europe or Eurail. You'll receive a PDF which you show to staff onboard -> these are your seat reservations.

On top of that you need to log on Rail Planner app the train you'd like to take -> QR-code, your ticket.

How did you make it to Barcelona from Madrid ?

@thibcabe  eu me refiro a reserva do primeiro ticket (barcelona para lyon), que deve ser feito na estação. Daí pergunto como fazer o pagamento e para quem, porque não tem balcão por aqui, barcelona. 

 

O segundo ticket eu reservei e  comprei (pago) pelo site da Raileuropa

If you're confused about the online reservations process read these 2 links and maybe someone else in your family can help you too :

https://www.seat61.com/how-to-use-a-eurail-pass.htm

https://www.seat61.com/interrail-and-eurail-reservations.htm

EDIT : answer coming to your post, let me translate it first.