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Hiya, we are planning to take the night jet from Venice to Munich on 31st May. I tried to book on Oebb but all the fare showing tickets not available. (I have tested with several dates) I also tried to book on Eurail reservations, there was no option of booking seats reservations either. Does the Venice to Munich nightjet open to Eurail pass holders? Thank you 🙂
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You can’t book both trains in the same way. Italian high speed trains you should book via ÖBB using the one way ticket option and Interrail/Eurail as discount. Same for the Eurocity to munich. Do not select only a seat (I know, it sounds wrong but it works so) Cost 10€ (or you use RV (local express trains on the same route) there you don’t need a reservation at all till Verona). Then from Verona you can book via CD.cz (not more than 90 days before, choose as Discount Interrail/Eurail to get the right price about 10 EUR in 2nd class, 15 EUR in 1st), there you can choose a specific seat (you need to know before the number of carriage and seat, look for the seat maps of DB-ÖBB Eurocity on seat61.com) and there you get with the surcharge the seat reservation for free on top online.
If you have further questions, feel free to ask!
Thanks so much
I just tried again with Oebb, it seems right this time, but would 50EUR for two adults the correct price?
I also noticed on Oebb, only one of the passengers details were required, it doesn’t seem to allow me to edit the second adult’s details. This is before the payment stage. Is this a normal thing? How would Oebb generate tickets without passengers’ names? 🤔
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What you see on DB and ÖBB are normal reservations without the supplement. DB does not sell the supplement online; to book this train on the ÖBB website, you have to indicate "Interrail/Eurail” as a discount and then look for normal tickets (and not use "seat reservation only”).
As to the CD website: you see the same thing if you try to book a reservation for next week, even for the direct train. Since CD redesigned their website, it doesn't seem to be possible anymore to book a reservation/supplement for this train. Maybe you could ask CD when that will be possible again?
I did indicate “Internal/Eurail” as a discount card, and I must've accidentally clicked the “seat reservation only (no tickets)” instead of “one-way tickets and day tickets”. That’s probably how the 6EUR turned out. 😬
I chose the correct option (one-way tickets and day tickets) when I checked the Italian trains, they all cost 10EUR per person per ride with pass.
I reckon CD has changed their booking system, I tested with a very recent date, it still popped up with the same notifications as below:
I was given two options of making the reservation later on by the custom service of CD as below:
Maybe I will email them to ask if booking on cd.cz is still possible in the future. 🙂
Then from Verona you can book via CD.cz (not more than 90 days before, choose as Discount Interrail/Eurail to get the right price about 10 EUR in 2nd class, 15 EUR in 1st),
Have you tried that recently? The Interrail and Eurail discounts have disappeared from the CD website since they redesigned their booking page and the "Reservation only” option does not work for this train :(
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You can’t book both trains in the same way. Italian high speed trains you should book via ÖBB using the one way ticket option and Interrail/Eurail as discount. Same for the Eurocity to munich. Do not select only a seat (I know, it sounds wrong but it works so) Cost 10€ (or you use RV (local express trains on the same route) there you don’t need a reservation at all till Verona). Then from Verona you can book via CD.cz (not more than 90 days before, choose as Discount Interrail/Eurail to get the right price about 10 EUR in 2nd class, 15 EUR in 1st), there you can choose a specific seat (you need to know before the number of carriage and seat, look for the seat maps of DB-ÖBB Eurocity on seat61.com) and there you get with the surcharge the seat reservation for free on top online.
If you have further questions, feel free to ask!
What you see on DB and ÖBB are normal reservations without the supplement. DB does not sell the supplement online; to book this train on the ÖBB website, you have to indicate "Interrail/Eurail” as a discount and then look for normal tickets (and not use "seat reservation only”).
As to the CD website: you see the same thing if you try to book a reservation for next week, even for the direct train. Since CD redesigned their website, it doesn't seem to be possible anymore to book a reservation/supplement for this train. Maybe you could ask CD when that will be possible again?
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I emailed Cd.cz and got replies as below, and then I checked on Oebb.com, it shows 6EUR for reservation for 2 adults. It doesn't seem right… 🤔
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Don’t forget to buy also the 10 EUR fee for Eurail user fee to use DB-ÖBB EC in Italy. You can buy it online via Eurail.com including the reservation for free (+2 EUR booking fee) or via Czech Railways cd.cz you get it without booking fee for about 10 EUR with the reservation for free.
If you buy this fee via DB or Trenitalia ticket office or CD.cz or Eurail.com (Eurail ask 2 EUR booking fee on top) online you get on top of this fee a reservation for free. If you book the fee via ÖBB you pay 3€ extra for the reservation.
Via DB online (4,50 EUR per trip) you can choose your seat from a seat plan. Via CD.cz you can require a seat that you want. You need to know the carriage and seat number.
Via Eurail.com you get a seat automatically via the system, you can’t choose a specific seat.
For the Frecciarossa to Verona, you can also book the reservation via ÖBB (using one way trip and Eurail as discount, so you don’t pay the Eurail booking fee), or you use the direct service Venice-Munich EC82 starting at 13:35 from Venezia S.Lucia
Hi
When I proceed to the next step of the second train (9:23) , it shows this screen, so I selected the preferences
And then moving to the next step, , the first leg shows reservation not possible, and the second leg somehow was filled with compartment, and area with any instead of what I chose in the previous stage, there's also no seat selections options.
I also tested with earlier dates and its the same results. 😔
I then tried Cd.cz, these are the screenshots, so it doesn't seem that I can proceed the booking on the website, does that mean I need to email them to make the reservation? (I don't really want to make international calls)
I then tried Eurail.com, the first leg is available for booking at the moment, however the second leg won't be open for reservation until 1 March (90 days before the travel dates)
All in all, I would really want to be able to select seats for this trip as it’s very scenic from what I’ve heard. It seems like Eurail.com is the only possible way I can make the reservations but won't be able to select seats, or would there be any other ways to book this trip?
Thanks so much in advance. :)
Venice has a relatively expensive travel ticket that covers all the trams, buses and ACTV water buses in the greater Venice area. There is a relatively new tram service from Venice Mestre to the Island (needs a change from Mestre station).
https://europeforvisitors.com/venice/articles/which-venice-pass-do-i-need.htm
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yay! Thank you so much for the information.
Yes and yes
There is a pedestrian bridge also, see here:
Source: Google Maps/Street View
Also there are trains until midnight (last one leaving Venezia SL for Mestre at 0.13 today e.g.)
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A couple of thoughts -
I would assume that the 10 euro supplement, like reservations, would simply be incorporated into a normal retail ticket. I travelled this run and the 10 euro included a reserved seat.
For anybody needing or contemplating hotels in Venice - simply stay in Venice Mestre - 10 mins from the island, much better quality hotels at very reasonable prices. Several good 3 and 4 star hotels very close to Mestre station - all trains from the island (V, St Lucia) stop at Mestre. Certainly cheaper (and more comfortable) than a sleeper and even a buffet breakfast.
Thanks so much for your tips
If I stay in Venice Metre, but want to spend most of the time on the island (Venice St. Lucia), would there be public transport go to Venice Mestre late at night? Does that bridge have bike path on the side? We are taking our rollerblades so that's basically our public transport 😛
A couple of thoughts -
I would assume that the 10 euro supplement, like reservations, would simply be incorporated into a normal retail ticket. I travelled this run and the 10 euro included a reserved seat.
For anybody needing or contemplating hotels in Venice - simply stay in Venice Mestre - 10 mins from the island, much better quality hotels at very reasonable prices. Several good 3 and 4 star hotels very close to Mestre station - all trains from the island (V, St Lucia) stop at Mestre. Certainly cheaper (and more comfortable) than a sleeper and even a buffet breakfast.
As far as I know most long distance trains in Germany are run (and priced) commercially, so I think this fee is more a consequence of how Eurail distributes income - also considering they are covered by the German Rail Pass.
That was probably the reason many years ago. But now that we see that smaller operators like Westbahn can be used without any supplement, it must also be possible for DB/ÖBB to get their fair share of the income for the route in Italy. I think they just keep the supplement in place because most pass holder users will travel anyway, so it's easy income.
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As far as I know most long distance trains in Germany are run (and priced) commercially, so I think this fee is more a consequence of how Eurail distributes income - also considering they are covered by the German Rail Pass. Plus, as Freccia's reservations cost €10 these would be very attractive for domestic trips in Italy too.
I don't say they are bad, though I did think that a few months ago when my sleeper carriage was broken and I was given a seat in the open-plan seating car as alternative.
Many people don't sleep well in night trains, and even less if you have to leave the train at 5:50 AM. In hotels where you pay €180 (the cost of a private double sleeper) for a double room you generally do sleep reasonably well.
I'm very much a fan of night trains (particularly due to their efficiency - travelling while you sleep), but they do have limitations.
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Thanks so much for your golden tip haha I wouldn’t have ever thought about booking the Venice to Munich train on Czech Railway 😆
Yes it’s indeed very complicated of European trains bookings/reservations, I am so overwhelmed each day planing our trip. Thanks god I found this forum and so many lovely people help me and answering my a million questions 😝
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In most larger stations you always have convenient luggage lockers to stow your stuff temporarily away. (Best bring a bit of cash/coins for that).
For day trains, Venice-Munich I refer to
(This is a very good case of how absurd and complex international European trains can be btw to find the best ticket/seat reservation. 😅 But it's a golden tip! )
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Yes, that’s what I thought, it’d work out similar cost for staying an extra night in Venice or take the nightjet. And we would be exhausted the next day when we arrive in Munich homeless with luggages. 😛
Is Oebb still the best place to book seat reservations for the Venice-Munich day trains? :)
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It's a pretty scenic route and I love Venice too. Honestly would recommend it if that's possible. Nightjets are not very comfortable unless you're in a hurry, and private cabins cost nearly as much as a hotel in Venice.
Or spend the night somewhere en route (though only Verona and Innsbruck/Salzburg are possibly interesting, and that is relatively close to each end)
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I don’t think we can be bothered to move carriage in between and the train does arrive super early and we can’t check into our hotel until 3pm probably. Maybe it’s better to stay in Venice for an extra night and take the day train on 1st June. 😬
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That is because the bottom one is the "offer price" (sparpreis) and Eurail passes discounts are not applied to that price. If you'd travel without a pass the top one would likely be considerably more expensive and the sparpreis would be the same.
Just book the Comfort ticket, and ignore the sparpreis option.
By the way, as the arrival in München is pretty early if you're going to reserve sleepers or couchettes, you could book the sleeper cabins (for the same price) all the way to Stuttgart - that'll give you 2.5 hours of extra sleep. You would then have to return 2 hours by ICE though (but those don't require compulsory reservation). At least that's what I would probably do 😁
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The usual surprise for OZzies: too early.
Not true. The NightJet from Venice to München on the 31st of May is already on sale through ÖBB.
Be sure to check to München Ost, and to indicate Interrail as a discount card (and not click on book seat reservations only, but a regular ticket with Interrail as a discount card) - as explained in the instructions.
wow, thanks for this
From what I can see on my laptop, it doesn't show the €13:60 option, the couchette and sleeper upgrades. I somehow only had 2 options on the page. 🤔
I also couldn't see where to indicate Interail/Eurail as a discount card :(
Click on the "CHANGE" text under "1×adult". Then you can add more adults and for each of the adults individually add "Interrail/Eurail - global pass" as discounts.
found it, thanks 😊
on the reservation page of Oebb, there are two ticket options showing…
The top one seems to have better conditions regarding cancelation while the bottom one is cancellation not possible, but why is the bottom one with no cancellation a lot more expensive? 🤔
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I didn't get a link for a seat plan after clicking the “Proceed” button, I reckon it could be the stage “check & book) after the payment stage. (I could be completely wrong😶)
If it doesn't appear it is not available on that specific train. It wouldn't surprise me if it isn't available on those trains as they might partially be run by the Austrian railways too.
If it is possible, it appears as shown below (and never after payment)
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thanks for the answer
I tested on DB online as I would really want to choose seats from a seating plan.
However, this is the page it came up. (didn't have a seat plan 😔)
On the next screen that appears after clicking "proceed" you usually (but not always) get a link to open a seat plan and change the seats you've been assigned.
I didn't get a link for a seat plan after clicking the “Proceed” button, I reckon it could be the stage “check & book) after the payment stage. (I could be completely wrong😶)
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The usual surprise for OZzies: too early.
Not true. The NightJet from Venice to München on the 31st of May is already on sale through ÖBB.
Be sure to check to München Ost, and to indicate Interrail as a discount card (and not click on book seat reservations only, but a regular ticket with Interrail as a discount card) - as explained in the instructions.
wow, thanks for this
From what I can see on my laptop, it doesn't show the €13:60 option, the couchette and sleeper upgrades. I somehow only had 2 options on the page. 🤔
I also couldn't see where to indicate Interail/Eurail as a discount card :(
Click on the "CHANGE" text under "1×adult". Then you can add more adults and for each of the adults individually add "Interrail/Eurail - global pass" as discounts.
found it, thanks 😊
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