DO NO USE Eurail. HORRIBLE COMPANY

  • 14 December 2022
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THIS COMPANY IS HORRIBLE.

Passes were bought erroneously on my credit card. I contacted this HORRIBLE company within minutes to get it refunded. AND THEY REFUSE  to give me a full refund.

Not only will they STEAL from you. They will explain to you that their website is made so poorly that you cant even tell if you can get a seat on a train before you buy a pass. So you buy the pass only to find out it wont work for ANY train you need.

 

DO NO, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY.  WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE I’VE EVER DEALT WITH.

Anonymous 1 year ago

@Luluc 

As explained in our previous emails, a Pass is only fully refundable when Plus has been added to the original order at the moment of purchase. Unfortunately, your order didn't have Plus included and therefore wasn't fully refunded.
 
This is the reason why, as mentioned in our Refunds and exchanges policy website, you're only eligible for a refund of 85% of your Passes value, while 15% is charged as a cancellation fee, which has already been refunded to you on 13/12/2022 and which you should receive in 3 to 5 business days.

I regret to inform you, once again, that we cannot change our refund and exchange policy. Please note that this decision is final. When you purchased your Passes you agreed with our Booking Conditions https://www.interrail.eu/en/terms-conditions/booking-conditions and you did indeed agree to the Terms of purchase which are governed by Dutch law and that the District Court for Central Netherlands is the competent court. Should you wish to take this case to the "Fraud department", you are free to do so. Nevertheless, we have to stick to our policies and rules, as we consider the customer's responsibility to read the conditions before purchasing our products.
 
Thank you for understanding!
 

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That is the email I got without my personal information.

Can You tell me where is the WARNING?????????????????????????????????????????????

 

 

 

📱Download the Rail Planner app to get started

   
👉 When you are ready, activate your Pass in 3 easy steps
add a new pass

1. Add your Pass to the app

Tap the button below, or go to My Pass in the app and enter your last name and Pass number.

Add your Pass now
connect your pass to a trip

2. Connect your Pass to a trip

You can create a new trip and give it a name, or choose an existing trip if you have one.

Activate your Pass

3. Activate your Pass

Enter your passport or ID number and pick the start date of your Pass validity. Now you’re ready to go!

No concrete travel plans yet? Feel free to skip this step and activate your Pass when you’re ready to travel.
You can still make reservations without your Pass being activated.

Remember, you’ll need an internet connection to activate your Pass, and your device must be using the Gregorian calendar.
🚞 How to travel with your Pass
Now that your Pass is ready for travel, here’s how to get ready for your first journey.
Plan a journey

Plan a journey

Search for train times using the planner or station boards.
Save it to my trip

Save it to My Trip

Once you've found a journey that suits you, tap to save it to your trip.
Add it to your pass

Add it to your Pass

Before you board the train, go to My Trip and tap to add your journey to your Pass.

Show your ticket

Show your ticket

You'll find your ticket in My Pass. Just tap 'Show ticket' ready for inspection.

That is not true. There is no warning. At least the warning that if you activate you loose your right for a refund. I know you like the company but for me tgey are not truthfull and nothing more than scan artists.

Thank you. If I can save one person from this disgrace it will pay for my loss. 

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In order to get it you will need deactivate something that you did not even know you activated and then you must ask for the refund. All this you are supposed to learn from a AI.

Like I wrote, you explicitly chose a start date for your pass and would have been able to read the warnings whether and until when that can be undone. No AI needed.

I do think that people should not be stimulated to activate their passes in advance. More than that, the confirmation email and the "getting started” pages should actively warn against activating in advance.

For more clarification. Even the 85% will not be refunded if you are not able to follow the chatbox command. You are never get this type of service you get here from them to explain how to get the refund from something you did not use. In order to get it you will need deactivate something that you did not even know you activated and then you must ask for the refund. All this you are supposed to learn from a AI.

 

 

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Hi All,

 

We see that there are some new comments on this post from 2022. We’d like to clarify that the Pass purchased from the original post was not 100% re-fundable because the “Plus” option was not added to the purchase. 

 

For questions about our refund policy please visit our help centre, https://www.eurail.com/en/eurail-passes/ordering-info/refund-exchange-policy. Our Customer service agents are also always happy to assist, and you can reach out to there, here. https://eurail.zendesk.com/hc/en-001/requests/new

 

We are always working towards improving our products and policies, so your feedback is always welcome.

 

Have a nice day everyone!

My post here is to may prevent another unfortunate soul to commit the same mistake I did. I bought something I could not use. Did not have the information that you have as an expert and will pay dearly for. The whole system is made for people to commit mistakes. They got my money. They have a horrible customer service. They should hire you. You do a great job. I did not travel and they got my money.

I would never take money out from people like that. That is why I do own or run a company like such as Eurail.

Thanks. 

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Please note I don't work for Eurail.

You can't cancel a pass anymore after the validity period has started, so when a pass is already active. When a pass is active, that means you loaded the pass in the app and completed the 3 steps for activation. In step 3, you explicitly have to choose a start date for the validity and the app will show a warning about whether that can be changed later.

Also note that activating a pass is not necessary to book a reservation.

Normally only unused and not activated passes can be refunded, which means that you have to cancel activation before requesting a refund and that is only possible before the validity period starts. However, Eurail will sometimes, on a case by case basis, also refund passes of which the validity period has already started.

You can post more information if you want.

I may have missed some information along the way. What I did not miss was:

i continuously asked for help to cancel trip because I could not use.

I was not allowed to do so.

I never use a single day of the trip.

I will have to pay the credit card because they bought your narrative that somehow activated the pass. No idea how. And because of that it could not be cancelled. If you insist in this narrative I could post here the answer they gave to tge credit card why they will refund the unused Pass. I am glad that you guys are quick to answer on facebook.

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@Paulo Sergio Tolentino 

It sounds a bit like you didn't really know what you bought, missed the information about making reservations in advance and the advice to do that early (especially at busy times), missed that you can request a refund from your Eurail account, missed the support information and how to contact support.

If Eurail did cancel your passes, then you should get the 85% refund on your credit card. I'm not sure how long that takes though. You can ask about the status here:

https://eurail.zendesk.com/hc/en-001/requests/new

(Note: there are only a few trains with limited availability for pass holders but Eurostar from/to London is one of them.)

Be really careful when buying from this company. The customer service is inexistent.
I bought 03 passes on Dec 16. Travelled to London to start a tour in Europe. Got to Eurail station and was told the next train on Jan 09 2024. I was told by the agent to cancel. I tried to reach them. To no avail. Rented a car and drove my trip 3715 miles. Lots of gas and tolls. Came back to the US. Tried to reach the unreachable. No avail. I was okay getting the 85% back as it stated on the purchase. Reached for the credit card to see. Making it short. They cancelled the passes unsed. Did not ever contacted me. Keep the money. I know there are a lot of happy customers with like I was 30 years ago. Before you buy it. Make a note. There are only a extreme limited tickets available. Do not travel over the hollidays. A company that does not reach out to solve customers questions saying that are two many of them is not worthy of your trust.

Extremely bad customer service. No telephone lines, no chatting, just an email line that is slow and the people running it show no understanding. Avoid this company at all costs. It really is going to cost me a lot of money for making the mistake to choose them.

@Luluc 

As explained in our previous emails, a Pass is only fully refundable when Plus has been added to the original order at the moment of purchase. Unfortunately, your order didn't have Plus included and therefore wasn't fully refunded.
 
This is the reason why, as mentioned in our Refunds and exchanges policy website, you're only eligible for a refund of 85% of your Passes value, while 15% is charged as a cancellation fee, which has already been refunded to you on 13/12/2022 and which you should receive in 3 to 5 business days.

I regret to inform you, once again, that we cannot change our refund and exchange policy. Please note that this decision is final. When you purchased your Passes you agreed with our Booking Conditions https://www.interrail.eu/en/terms-conditions/booking-conditions and you did indeed agree to the Terms of purchase which are governed by Dutch law and that the District Court for Central Netherlands is the competent court. Should you wish to take this case to the "Fraud department", you are free to do so. Nevertheless, we have to stick to our policies and rules, as we consider the customer's responsibility to read the conditions before purchasing our products.
 
Thank you for understanding!
 

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You still haven’t given details of whether Eurail offered you a refund of 85%. The only time they do not offer this is if you bought in a discount sale, and I am not aware of any recent sales for Eurail, although there was one for its European equivalent, Interrail, a few weeks ago.

Did you check the b-europe dedicated site for pass holders? To check availability is easy and does not require you to have a pass, merely indicate the type of pass you intend travelling with (Eurail 1st or 2nd Class).

https://www.b-europe.com/EN/Booking/Pass#TravelWish

You have a choice of London to Paris, Lille, Brussels or Amsterdam.

A quick check for early January shows no problems with availability. If you post your planned dates and preferred destination we can quickly check for you.

Here is a typical page from the site for a second class pass.

and one for first class pass holders to Paris

 

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I already looked at ALL THOSE alternative routes and nothing is available using the pass.

There are more alternatives to Eurostar, depending on your journey. In particular, there are several other ferries and one of them even has a Eurail/Interrail discount (Harwich - Hoek van Holland) and often has availability. But without route and date it's difficult to advise.

If it was, I would have just sucked it up and used the pass.  But it is not.   You HAVE TO HAVE a pass to even attempt to book on this. I literally just searched it again without a pass, and it shows availability for trains at a price around 25 bucks.

No it doesn't. The website says:

In addition, USD 25 is not Eurostar but another train, for which alternatives probably exist but without details advice is difficult.

You can not see the accurate price or open seats until AFTER you pay for a pass on this site. Only to find out there are NO SEATS that can be reserved with your pass. HOW IS THAT NOT MISLEADING? Why show trains they cant book at prices that are not real.

They should be paying you considering the lenghts yall will go to defend them not refunding money for a pass that cant be used and was bought it error by someone that isnt the card holder.

I’m not defending that at all, I'm just correcting some of your assumptions, pointing out the information that is available and offering help in case you want that with finding alternatives, which can often be pointed out once enough journey details are provided.

In fact, I also find it very bad that availability can't be seen on the Eurail website before you buy a pass. I've written that a number of times in this community. And I do wonder whether enough information is provided in advance about limited pass holder seat availability in some trains. And whether the small warning you see (when you're not logged in) is clear enough to warn prospective pass buyers that they're not looking at real availability. If you do start legal action, I“d be very interested in the outcome.

So they knowingly mislead folks into buying passes they don’t know if they can actually use? I suppose my mother with dementia should have combed through this company website to discover that the search results they show are completely false and you can only see the real prices and availability to use your pass if you pay them.  And this is hard hitting evidence?  Ha. What’s flavor is the koolaid yall are drinking that you think that is remotely ethical?   Do you understand how website are made? They CAN so accurate search results when you paid them but cant when you havent? That is a CHOICE. An unethical choice.

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There is information on the Eurail website that says that you must be logged in, thus having a pass, to see actual availability of reservations.

 

I already looked at ALL THOSE alternative routes and nothing is available using the pass. If it was, I would have just sucked it up and used the pass.  But it is not.   You HAVE TO HAVE a pass to even attempt to book on this. I literally just searched it again without a pass, and it shows availability for trains at a price around 25 bucks. Those tickets are not actually available or even remotely that cost. Looking at the EXACT trains on other sites shows that the prices are closer to 500 bucks. You can not see the accurate price or open seats until AFTER you pay for a pass on this site. Only to find out there are NO SEATS that can be reserved with your pass. HOW IS THAT NOT MISLEADING? Why show trains they cant book at prices that are not real.

 

They should be paying you considering the lenghts yall will go to defend them not refunding money for a pass that cant be used and was bought it error by someone that isnt the card holder .  You need a raise.

 

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Exactly, there is NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVE. I tried to figure out how I could possibly use the pass since I was charged for it. THERE IS NONE. I went as far being willing to completely change where we are going. There are ZERO options for our dates (weeks outs)  other than buying full price ticket on the Eurostar. Which is as much as the pass.  It didn’t show that the trains had ZERO availability for reservation, it just kept showing errors.

Finally a hint of the journey(s) you were looking for. There are alternatives, by the way, but none are as fast as the Eurostar. One of them is explained here:

https://www.eurail.com/en/get-inspired/suggested-itineraries/london-to-europe-without-the-eurostar

But if you don't share any details, then nobody can help.

A simple SOLD OUT would do wonders, but yet they don’t put that on the train schedules.

Unfortunately, it isn't as simple as that. “Prices unavailable” can mean a number of things, as is explained on the booking page, one of which is "sold out”.

And you can not try to reserve a seat without activating a pass.

That is not correct. Even though booking a reservation via the Eurail website requires you to buy a pass first, activating a pass is not required at all. In fact, none of the possibilities to buy a Eurostar reservation require an activated pass.

A company shouldn’t have to rely on unpaid community chat folk to do their job of explaining all the quirks of their website. The fact that they do, shows exactly how much they value costumers. Makes me wonder who on here is paid to be here and defend the shitty way this company treats people.

Yes, the process could be better. In particular checking availability before buying a pass, which many users have already asked for and which is expected to come in future. But you also clearly missed some information yourself.

Nobody here is paid by Eurail to defend anything.

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@Luluc There are other, better ways, to make reservations than the Eurail website. On those websites you can make reservation for many trains before you even buy the pass. For the Eurostar and the domestic French trains you can at least check availability before you buy the pass.

If you share your travel details with the Community you will get advice how you can travel.

Exactly, there is NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVE.  I tried to figure out how I could possibly use the pass since I was charged for it. THERE IS NONE. I went as far being willing to completely change where we are going. There are ZERO options for our dates (weeks outs)  other than buying full price ticket on the Eurostar. Which is as much as the pass.  It didn’t show that the trains had ZERO availability for reservation, it just kept showing errors.

A simple SOLD OUT would do wonders, but yet they don’t put that on the train schedules.  And you can not try to reserve a seat without activating a pass.  So if you are getting errors and it not showing that is a sold out train, should I have magically known that they trains they are showing arent even bookable? That absurd.

 

All this to say. This company makes BILLIONS. The fact they are refusing to give my money back knowing the situation when they can speaks volumes. It’s horrible costumer service. It a shitty way to treat people. It’s unethical.  The fact that they dont even have a phone number to talk to their costumes shows how little they think of helping out with any issues with their service.

 

A company shouldn’t have to rely on unpaid community chat folk to do their job of explaining all the quirks of their website. The fact that they do, shows exactly how much they value costumers. Makes me wonder who on here is paid to be here and defend the shitty way this company treats people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don’t know about USA but in GB the credit card company is jointly liable for problems with a purchase. I would try contacting them for help. It is possible they may be sympathetic but I expect you will need to explain how you shared your credit card security with another person. I think it’s worth a try.

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In line with my fellow members I suggest you consider the following before blowing off.

You accept that your mother, using your credit card, put in the order, albeit for the wrong passes. Where is the theft?

In accordance with their Terms and Conditions  did they offer you either an 85% refund or an exchange of passes for a small admin fee? In order to exchange your passes you normally need to buy the new ones then they exchange them and reimburse the original payment minus the small fee (about $15 per pass)

It is clear on the website and on this community that your Global pass is just a ticket to travel on many trains in Europe. Some of these also have optional or mandatory reservations which usually require an additional payment, not included in your pass and these are managed totally separate from your pass.

All users of Global Passes can research before purchase whether trains are available at the time of checking on a number of sites. There are guides throughout the posts on this community, including guidance for anybody planning a trip - just ask respectfully. As a generalisation the main problems with availability on trains with mandatory reservations are Eurostar (UK - Mainland Europe), Thalys (France - Holland), SNCF TGVs and sleeper trains. All others usually have many options throughout the day.

The only one that doesn’t have a viable alternative service (often without reservation) is Eurostar, which has a total rail monopoly on crossing the English Channel, limits the number of pass reservations and charges a high reservation fee.

What I need help on is getting my full refund for worthless passes. What I don’t need is people belittling me because of where I was born.  Pretty hateful to be honest. 

They are fully aware that the charge on my card was not made by me but my mother who has dementia.  Everyone, including Eurail, has said YES, it is very hard to figure out if a train is sold out on this website. If its hard for people with the FULL cogitative abilities, than its especially hard for the elderly. 

What I am asking for is a full refund for a service that WAS NOT given. A refund for erroneous charge made by a person who as NOT the card holder. This request  was explained and given straight away.

 

Eurail CAN refund all my money, and yet they are refusing to do it. It’s unethical. It’s horrible costumer service. 

 

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I understand your frustration a bit better now. But you still didn’t provide exact details on which train you were planning to take - and when. Which departure city? Which countries you’re talking about? You’re to generic to help you provide alternatives. Calm down, provide us with details and we’ll try to get you on the way anyhow.

Which wrong ticket did you buy, and which did you wanted to buy?

I presume this is Eurostar that is fully booked?

The last weeks we’ve been suggesting plenty of alternatives to it. This community can help you, we’ve been helping people out of the sometimes unnecessarily complicated rail network in Europe since day 1 of this forum.

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