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How can we get more people on trains instead of planes?

  • November 5, 2024
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Eurail Community Moderator
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Hey Eurail/Interrail Community,

We have an exciting topic to discuss today: getting more people on trains instead of planes!🚆✈️

 

With all the talk about sustainability and reducing our carbon footprint, we know that trains can be a fantastic alternative to air travel. But how do we encourage more people to make the switch? 

Do you think partnerships between airlines and Eurail could be a nice benefit for our customers? And also, can it help promote rail to a new audience? Tell us your opinion in the comments 👇

 

 

Cheers,
Eurail Community Moderator

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ralderton
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  • Railmaster
  • 1549 replies
  • November 5, 2024

I see a lot of people, usually from outside Europe, who have no experience of how train travel really works.

They sometimes expect it to operate like air travel: with a need to reserve far ahead for good prices, strict baggage limits, check in times etc. Train travel is better here, and doesn’t advertise the benefits well enough! (Also city centre locations, more personal space, views, productive time on-board).

But they also expect airline-style ease of ticketing, protected connections, certainty over schedules. And not being able to guarantee a seat, or seats together, is off-putting for a lot of travellers.

Train travel is worse here, and doesn’t really admit it.

So from Eurail’s point of view: advertise these benefits. Why a 2 hour flight is really 5 hours, and even if the train is 6 hours, it’s a much more pleasant 6 hours.

But also educate customers not to expect train schedules so far ahead, that most trains will probably run at the time they’re running this week, that they don’t need to plan and fix everything 6 months in advance.

The Eurail/ Interrail pass solves a lot of problems over ticketing, and sometimes means a missed connection is not the problem it would be with regular tickets. But the existence of compulsory/ optional/ not possible reservations makes it much more complex again, and I don’t know how to fix that one!


BrendanDB
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  • Full steam ahead
  • 1682 replies
  • November 7, 2024

I would focus the communication about it mainly on the experience and comfort side of train travel. The usual intra-European flights to me have a comparable comfort level of a city bus. Cramped seats, very close to other people, slow boarding process, pushy vending tactics, airports hundreds of kms away from the actual destination.… Brrrrrrrr.

While (long distance) trains have plenty of space, comfortable seats, a bar/bistro car with a local flair, plenty of room for luggage, and in some trains dedicated carriages for children, pets, silence seekers,… Much more options than your average flight.

A lot of people I talk with are quite positive to try it, although they mostly think of a train as a commuting vehicle to work, very nice to skip traffic in big cities, but for the rest nothing special. Then I always explain that shouldn’t compare a short commute with international train travel in big comfy real long distance trains with a restaurant and bar and all the other features.

What also strikes me is how easily people get lost finding a route, a bit what  @ralderton says. Even my aunt, working in a travel Agency finds it difficult to propose people a train journey and gets lost in the ins and outs. It’s kinda niche and a there are a lot of different railway cultures, depending on the country. Booking a high-speed train between big cities is for most people doable, but more complex things… Difficult. Maybe a lot of travel agents just need a sort of extra education/formation option coming from Eurail?

I think you could convince a lot of “self searching” travelling people of people with a short explainer in a lot of languages (in video and text) with the basic ins and outs, a bit what the man in seat 61 does very elaborately on his website, but much more concise:

  • It’s comfortable, it’s quick but you need to get the hang of it a bit. Once you grasp the basics, you navigate with ease and confidence through Europe.
  • Use a good train route planner
  • Don’t plan tight connections between two important trains
  • Changing trains is not that bad, stretch your legs, grab a coffee, and do a mini-city hop for maxi pleasure
  • Delays are not as problematic as they seem if you’re aware of some basic rights and railway logics
  • City Centre to City Centre convenience
  • Enjoy the scenery and random encounters
  • ...

A lot of people once they try to get a bit more specific they quickly search on google maps, panic with the big amount of changes or don’t find something logical, they just click on the next available flight or go by car.

(Maybe we should we rename bahn.com in google trains?)


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  • Engin-ius
  • 103 replies
  • November 7, 2024

Picking up on one of Brendans points, making people more comfortable with connecting trains can help.

Doing it by plane - you can’t (or can’t easily) leave the airport and go visit the city for a few hours

Doing it by train - you can just walk out of the station, stroll around whatever city you are in for however long you want, and then stroll back to the station to get your connection.  Obviously you need to plan it, but it makes eminent sense on routes where there are hourly or other regular trains.  Just knowing that you don’t have to take the option with the 7 minute connection and taking the one with the 4 hour 7 minute connection and visit that museum/shop/pub you always wanted to visit but couldn’t justify an entire trip for . . . is a massive advantage of train travel.

Also, as mentioned above, the distinction between commuter and long distance travel could be spelled out.  Commuter travel is *never* going to be fun.  Apart from anything else, you are going to work.  But in general commuter travel is supposed to be A to B functional transport.  Long distance can be so much more in so many ways.  Bring back transeuropexpress as a brand for starters ;)


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  • Engin-ius
  • 103 replies
  • November 7, 2024

Why a 2 hour flight is really 5 hours, and even if the train is 6 hours, it’s a much more pleasant 6 hours.

When the world went from everyone getting the train between cities to flying a certain amount of familiarity disappeared.  For whatever reason a lot of people are nervous about what can often be the easiest possible route between two places and opt for the perceived comfort of a “direct” flight.  I use quotes because as above and as we all know, it’s direct to somewhere on the outskirts of where you want to be when you fly.

By way of example . . . I remember an American (sounding) family checking in at Naples airport to fly to Venice or Verona.  The amount they paid for excess luggage (never mind the fare) would probably have paid for first class train tickets and a bottle or two of something fizzy along with a meal on the train.

The point is . . . not that they were silly people but that they probably wanted the perceived comfort offered by flying and were prepared to pay the price.  If they knew they could have walked into the train station, rocked up to the ticket desk, bought tickets and jumped on the next train I’m sure they would have.  The challenge is how to spread the good news.


Dheerajakella
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  • Full steam ahead
  • 22 replies
  • November 11, 2024
  • As other members mentioned, Most of the main train stations are located within the city centre and you don’t need to spend extra bucks on extra luggage or Airport to city centre transit buses. 
  • Introducing new train routes or more connections between different cities.
  • Also, introduce some offers or discounts on people who are in the age range of 29-35.
  • Less train strikes (especially in Italy) in the last couple of months, there are so many strikes related to transport are happening. This issue needs to be addressed if possible and make it more affordable.

Lastly, Don’t need to worry about Turbulence 😅😅😅


  • Right on track
  • 7 replies
  • April 22, 2025

It isn’t always quicker to travel by train. It is always more interesting and the views are better. This is possibly an extreme example, but when I visit the grandchildren I fly from Paris to Bangkok then get a bus, and that takes about 26 hours from home, including two hours on the train from home to CDG. I have done it by train, it was great fun but it takes quite a lot longer. More than two weeks. Plus the Trans Siberian is problematic at the moment, and it cost a lot in Visas. 

So, let's be realistic. If no very large inhospitable areas have to be crossed, (Oceans, everyone...) and mountains aren’t too much of a problem, then yes, train, of course. How to encourage people to use them? Mandatory seat reservations and dynamic pricing need to go on most trains. Yes, SNCF, I am looking at you. I don’t know in March if I want to go to Barcelona in November, so please don’t advertise ridiculous low fares to tempt me, but that sell out in April. Also, on your planner, how about admitting that it isn’t always essential to travel via two different stations in Paris, and admit that there are other routes. While you are at it, how about installing a few lifts at Montparnasse, and not making me walk halfway across Paris from the Metro. Or just admit that there is actually a bus from Gare du Nord. It’s not just France. U.K. small country with far too many train companies. Please at least have some of them run on time, and clean the trains a bit more often. And not expect me to spend hours working out who has the best connections and lowest fares. Oh, and RENFE please can you post your trains a bit sooner while you are at it? Plus while you are digging up Chamartin, how about a few more signs and maybe even some nice person with a buggy to move the crumblies who weren’t expecting a hike?

OK, rant over. I love trains. I have been riding them for travel and pleasure since the last days of steam. Please don’t try to turn them into aeroplanes with luggage checks and every seat a different price. I would prefer ten hours on a wooden seat to that (well, having done that, maybe not. Not every trip, anyway).  Please keep it possible for us to rock up at the station and travel. Did you know there is a rack railway in Greece? Crawling uphill since 1896. Beat that! 

 


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  • Keeps calm and carries on
  • 266 replies
  • April 22, 2025

I think that travelling by train can be very stressful when you travel with big luggage, kids or you are not in great shape.

Two examples:

Last Thursday, Basel SBB. The ICE was canceled between this station and Basel Bad Bf, as usual. You had only the S-Bahn, it was hopelessly overcrowded, some people couldn’t board.

Today, Lugano. The well known connection IC 2/21 - RE 80 to avoid EC reservation fees. The IC was 2 minutes late, only 2 minutes were available to change to another another platform. Some people try to run so as not to miss the train, but the stairs were overloaded.

Fortunately, the SBB delayed the departure of the RE 80 by a few minutes. There was no more free seats in first class, unless you went to the front or back of the train, not easy with heavy luggage.


  • Right on track
  • 7 replies
  • April 22, 2025

Flights can be stressful too. May I suggest packing light? Can't do a lot about the children, though. At least in a train you can take them for a walk. 

As for your two minute connection, it looks as if you only had four minutes to start with? 

So, what could we do to make things better? 


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  • Keeps calm and carries on
  • 266 replies
  • April 23, 2025

I can live with these problems; I've been traveling by train for 50 years and I know that I can for example plan more time to change if I have a critical connection.

I'm especially thinking of people who are taking the train for the first time, and perhaps for the last time if the service offered doesn't meet their expectations. 


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