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  • May 20, 2026
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We are a Canadian family of 3 travelling in Germany and France on a Eurail pass. Our base is Karlsruhe, where we have family. Today, we are on a little day trip to Paris.

We have activated our Eurail pass for today. Since the train requires reservations, we bought reservations for two ICE trains, one from Karlsruhe to Paris in the morning, and another ICE from Paris back to Karlsruhe in the evening. The reservations were bought through the DB Navigator app.

Everything worked fine inside Germany, but after the border to France there was another ticket check and the person told us that DB reservations are not valid in combination with the Eurail pass. He said he would exceptionally accept it since we were already on the train, but that we would be denied boarding on the way back. He told us to book a reservation through Eurail - but there are no more reservations available on the app and I’m now freaking out about being stranded in Paris with 4 year old tonight.

I find this so confusing, because it specifically says on the Eurail website that you are allowed to reserve through the operator directly (which is DB I assume since it’s an ICE?).

I tried to file a ticket with Eurail, but the form tells you that if your reservation is with the operator they won’t help you. I called Deutsche Bahn, and they didn’t even know what Eurail was!

So now we’re potentially stranded in Paris, with no way to sort this issue out because neither Eurail nor Deutsche Bahn want to help us.

We’re willing to pay the difference if we somehow in this confusing mess bought the wrong kind of reservation, but we just need to get back tonight, preferrably using the seats that we already paid for.

Best answer by BrendanDB

Which type of reservation did you buy? The normal 5,5 or 6,9 EUR seat reservation?

When travelling on TGV or ICE trains between France and Germany, a passholder fare including a reservation is required. A normal seat reservation (€5,50/€6,90) is not sufficient to/from France and only valid for trips within Germany.

It’s a bit confusing indeed, but you need a “Passzuschlag” for this train, more info here: https://www.interrail.eu/en/plan-your-trip/reservations/trains-with-additional-supplements or here https://www.seat61.com/interrail-and-eurail-reservations.htm (look at TGV ICE France-Germany). 

You need an extra fee which includes a reservation, so that it conforms more with the normal (and pricey) reservations for high speed trains in France, ranging from 10-20 EUR.

Alternatively, if it’s sold out you can look at normal domestic TGVs, get a reservation to Strasbourg, take a local (reservation free) train to Offenburg, from which you’ll find connections to Karlsruhe again. Timewise not that much longer;

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Which type of reservation did you buy? The normal 5,5 or 6,9 EUR seat reservation?

When travelling on TGV or ICE trains between France and Germany, a passholder fare including a reservation is required. A normal seat reservation (€5,50/€6,90) is not sufficient to/from France and only valid for trips within Germany.

It’s a bit confusing indeed, but you need a “Passzuschlag” for this train, more info here: https://www.interrail.eu/en/plan-your-trip/reservations/trains-with-additional-supplements or here https://www.seat61.com/interrail-and-eurail-reservations.htm (look at TGV ICE France-Germany). 

You need an extra fee which includes a reservation, so that it conforms more with the normal (and pricey) reservations for high speed trains in France, ranging from 10-20 EUR.

Alternatively, if it’s sold out you can look at normal domestic TGVs, get a reservation to Strasbourg, take a local (reservation free) train to Offenburg, from which you’ll find connections to Karlsruhe again. Timewise not that much longer;


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  • May 20, 2026

I guess we bought the normal one? There was only one option on the DB app. I went on https://www.eurail.com/en/book-reservations#/ and there was no mention about this “Passzuschlag” - was I supposed to know about this? Your link is for interrail - does it apply to Eurail as well because I don’t see this information there? Would this have been added automatically, had I booked via Eurail? Is it possible to add this to the reservation after the fact?

Honestly, our Eurotrip has been amazing in most ways, but boy do you all have a way to make things complicated with little extra rules, and nobody to ask when things get confusing.


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Interrail (for Europeans)/Eurail (for non Europeans) is basically the same product, don’t worry. It applies for both.

Yes, this would have been added automatically by booking for Eurail, but with a 2 EUR extra fee.

Use this website: https://int.bahn.de/en/buchung/start?KL=2&ET=PASSZUSCHLAG and choose the 19 EUR Global pass option.

I’ve set up an alternative route via domestic TGV’s in my post above.


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And yes, some countries like France, Spain or trains like Eurostar come with very annoying extra rules, fees and a high reservation cost and a quotum on interrail travellers. Very confusing for first timers, I totally get your point. The more complaints they get, the more pressure to make it more customer friendly I guess?


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  • May 20, 2026

The “Passzuschlag” link to Deutsche Bahn says “From EUR 15” and then when I try to book it changes to “No price information available”. Does this mean it’s sold out? Or am I doing something wrong again?


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Success! I found a train where it doesn’t change to “No price information available”, and it’s only half an hour after the one we were supposed to take. Disaster averted.

Just to clarify - this will count as a reservation, correct? Or will I need a reservation in addition to this “Passzuschlag” thing?


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Please mention preferred travel time and train, so I can double check.


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  • May 20, 2026

Actually now it works for the original train as well - not sure what I did. I’ll buy the Passzuschlag for the original train, then we should be good, right?


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Success! I found a train where it doesn’t change to “No price information available”, and it’s only half an hour after the one we were supposed to take. Disaster averted.

Just to clarify - this will count as a reservation, correct? Or will I need a reservation in addition to this “Passzuschlag” thing?

Ah good, travelling on a normal weekday usually has enough last minute seats. Ooof!

Passzuschlag of 19 EUR counts as a reservation too, no worries ;)

Trains operating in France tend to make it very customer unfriendly, you’re not the first one encountering this hiccup. I feel your pain!


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  • May 20, 2026

Thanks Brendan for all your help! We’re off to exploring the city of lights now without worries of getting stranded.


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DB are in fact guilty of this confusion and hardly do any effort to prevent pass holders from buying these reservations online. In addition, regular DB reservations can't be changed, so DB customer service are unlikely to help. DB now have a special page to book passholder reservations, but you'll only find it if you know it exists.

You didn't mention which train you booked for this evening. Many direct trains are already full or almost full indeed, but people could help to make a plan B.

In Paris there will likely be a ticket check before boarding, with barcode scanners. Since the regular DB reservations don't have a barcode, they can't scan those. I'd then show the pass together with your reservations, and if asked, just say you received those reservations, and kindly but firmly insist that you do have a reservation for the train. If needed, offer to pay the difference and keep the receipts. SNCF have an on-board fee of around €35 for a missing reservation.

DB are in fact responsible for any additional expenses that may arise from their negligence. They have already lost a number of cases about precisely these reservations (​@seewulf may have more info about that). If you have any extra expenses, then after the journey, first complain to DB and if they don't refund or respond within 1 month, then submit a request with the conciliation body.


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Thanks Brendan for all your help! We’re off to exploring the city of lights now without worries of getting stranded.

Glad it worked out, enjoy your day!


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  • May 20, 2026

Had an awesome day in Paris. On the train now - wish us luck! Nobody checked our tickets at the platform though?

By the way, I found the equivalent Eurail link to what Brendan shared above: https://www.eurail.com/en/plan-your-trip/about-reservations/trains-with-additional-supplements

It says: “The trains listed here are the only trains that require an additional supplement”, but then it doesn’t list TGV/ICE to France. The lists of trains that require a supplement are different between Interrail and Eurail! So I think I didn’t need the supplement after all and the train staff were just as confused as I am by this convoluted set of rules.


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You did need this reservation (it has an included supplement). Over the past few years, many people have been charged €35 each for having the wrong reservation in the TGV and ICE trains between Germany and France because of DB's poor information.


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The Eurail page on additional supplements has Centovalli and Arlanda airport twice at the top, and is missing “TGV and ICE”. The article itself still has a section on "Eurocity Trieste – Slovenia Supplement”, but this EC doesn't exist anymore.

On both the Eurail and the Interrail page, the section "TER trains from Lille Europe” is not mentioned at the top.


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  • May 20, 2026

Okay, so you’re saying that both the Eurail and Interrail website are out of date and that us poor foreigners are somehow expected to magically know what the new rules are or else get fined or worse denied boarding? And what does any of this have to do with DB - the incorrect information is on Eurail’s website? I’m going to give up here as I’m finding this very frustrating and I don’t want to let this spoil what was an otherwise perfect outing.


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Okay, so you’re saying that both the Eurail and Interrail website are out of date and that us poor foreigners are somehow expected to magically know what the new rules are or else get fined or worse denied boarding? And what does any of this have to do with DB - the incorrect information is on Eurail’s website?

All websites you mentioned have partly incorrect and/or insufficient information. The worst is DB since they don’t warn at all, and that's how you ended up with the incorrect reservations.

The best overview for pass reservations is this page:

https://www.seat61.com/interrail-and-eurail-reservations.htm

It specifically warns about this.


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  • May 20, 2026

DB are the central element to this - they are the people who run the train and require the supplement.  Other organisations (eurail, trainline, etc . . .) just resell DB services and their pages may be out of date.

SNCF are also central as well since they levy significant pass holder supplements for their own services.

The confusion arises because no/few other DB trains require this supplement when traveling on a pass, and so you end up with a situation where you can buy a reservation (not supplement) and not be aware that this isn’t sufficient.  Since a reservation is sufficient for 99.95% of all other DB services it’s an easy trap to fall into.


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At risk of grossly over simplifying - there are a bunch of national rail networks that are regarded as “good” in terms of having minimal additional fees or charges and a bunch that are regarded as “bad” or at least “tricky”.

Put it this way - Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, UK, Ireland are good in my books.  France, Spain and to a lesser extent Italy are not.