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trouble booking AVE reservations Lyon-Barcelona Dec 27th

  • October 28, 2025
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Hi, I’m having trouble booking two seat reservations for the RENFE direct service AVE INT #9742 from Lyon Part Dieu to Barcelona Sants on December 27th, departing 14:35 and arriving 19:23. As far as I can see, this train does not seem to show up on interrail.eu. It does show up on RailEurope.com and on HappyRail, but when I look for seat reservations for two people with an Interrail Global pass I only get the standard fee of about €100 each.

However, I am able to book a single seat for the standard Interrail fee of €10 through RailEurope. But when I then try to add a second single seat to my basket, I get an error message stating that Unfortunately it appears that this fare may no longer be available from the rail operator. It may be that the price or availability has changed. Please try performing a new search or selecting a different departure time or ticket type.

This would suggest that there’s only a single Interrail fee seat left. But on HappyRail it seems that there are plenty seats still available, and I thought this train type did not have limited Interrail seats. I also find it strange that this train does not show up on the interrail.eu reservation website, and the trains on the surrounding days don’t, either.

Can you help me understand what’s going on here? What would be my best way to proceed?

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  • Railmaster
  • October 28, 2025

Renfe should not have a limited pass holder quota but the international AVEs have been showing exactly that for a number of months now, including on Happyrail, Rail Europe and interrail.eu. The AVE Lyon-Barcelona on 27/12 still has many free seats in 2nd class but indeed only 1 can be booked with a pass.

You could ask Rail Europe support what the problem is and when they think this will be solved. If you do, then please let us know what they say.


  • Author
  • Right on track
  • October 28, 2025

Thanks for the quick and helpful reply! It’s good to hear that these trains should not have a limited amount of Interrail seats.

I’ve contacted Rail Europe support and will update this thread once I hear back from them.


  • Author
  • Right on track
  • October 28, 2025

Update: I just heard back from Rail Europe. They confirmed there only seems to be one Interrail ticket left for this service on their booking platform, even though the train still seems to be almost entirely empty when I try to book a standard full-fare ticket.

They also claim there are only limited Interrail allocations on these services. From @rvdborgt’s reply it sounds like this should not be the case. This page on the Interrail website does not seem to make any definite statements either way. Where could I find out more about this?


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  • Railmaster
  • October 28, 2025

Renfe should be the ultimate source for this information. You could contact their customer service.

@Eurail Community Moderator Do you have any more information about this? I suppose Eurail has a contact person at Renfe.


  • Author
  • Right on track
  • October 28, 2025

Okay, I’ve sent in this question via the Renfe contact form. RailEurope got back to me again with a general reply stating the availability of passholder reservations is dictated by the operators and they cannot influence that, which makes sense. However, it also does not seem like they know if this is expected behavior for the Ave trains or not. I’d be very happy to hear from other sources, too.

For the record, from a quick count on the HappyRail seat map, it looks like there’s currently a total of 161 bookable seats and 102 occupied seats in the five second-class carriages of this train.


Eurail Community Moderator
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Renfe should be the ultimate source for this information. You could contact their customer service.

@Eurail Community Moderator Do you have any more information about this? I suppose Eurail has a contact person at Renfe.

Hi Everyone!

We’re aware of the current situation regarding passholder quotas on international AVE trains and are already in contact with RENFE to get more clarity on this.

Thanks for your patience!

Camilo


  • Author
  • Right on track
  • November 8, 2025

Hi ​@Eurail Community Moderator , thanks for picking this up! Would you be able to give an update of the current situation?

From what I can see, no further second-class Interrail reservations have been released for this train. Do you think this is likely to change? If not, since my travel dates are getting close, I would probably have to buy a reservation for the (unfortunately slower and more expensive) inOUI service from Valence to Barcelona instead.

Either way, thank you for your time!


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  • Railly clever
  • November 8, 2025

You can book the TGV from Valence for peace in mind. Do that on Rail Europe. These TGV reservations are fully refundable until 30 minutes after (!) departure and Rail Europe makes it really easy to cancel them if you manage to get additional seats on the AVE later.


  • Author
  • Right on track
  • November 9, 2025

You can book the TGV from Valence for peace in mind. Do that on Rail Europe. These TGV reservations are fully refundable until 30 minutes after (!) departure and Rail Europe makes it really easy to cancel them if you manage to get additional seats on the AVE later.

Perfect, thanks!


Eurail Community Moderator
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Hi ​@Eurail Community Moderator , thanks for picking this up! Would you be able to give an update of the current situation?

From what I can see, no further second-class Interrail reservations have been released for this train. Do you think this is likely to change? If not, since my travel dates are getting close, I would probably have to buy a reservation for the (unfortunately slower and more expensive) inOUI service from Valence to Barcelona instead.

Either way, thank you for your time!

Hi ​@sdk120347, sorry for the wait! Since there hasn’t been any update on new second-class Interrail reservations for this train, it’s best to go ahead and book a reservation for the TGV instead.